I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Consuela - Jun 01, 2004 8:46:48 am PDT #2683 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Telcontar.

Thorongil.

And Gandalf did it too: Olorin, Mithrandir, Grey Pilgrim -- plus some other name the Dwarves gave him, I think.


Miracleman - Jun 01, 2004 8:49:01 am PDT #2684 of 3902
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

plus some other name the Dwarves gave him, I think.

"Slappy" and "Bastard Still Owes Us $37.52 for Back Mithril Order".


Connie Neil - Jun 01, 2004 9:18:16 am PDT #2685 of 3902
brillig

Allyson, did you see the first two or did you just see the third movie?


Mala - Jun 01, 2004 11:07:57 am PDT #2686 of 3902

They meet and schmoop in a part PJ left out. It is apparently in the EE.
It had better be! *shakes tiny fist at PJ*

Why is it never Arwen daughter of whatshername (that I'm blanking on right now)? Why is it always the men?

(I know, I know, Tolkein lived in a different time. That just bugs me.)


Sophia Brooks - Jun 01, 2004 11:18:09 am PDT #2687 of 3902
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Who was also called "Strider" and "Elessar".

Wait a minute. His NAME was Elessar?!? I was wondering why in the hell it kept getting whispered to him!

I think I have just lost the Eowyn/Faramir vibe points that I won earlier


Dana - Jun 01, 2004 11:19:14 am PDT #2688 of 3902
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

t snork


Kathy A - Jun 01, 2004 11:28:45 am PDT #2689 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Elessar was the name he used when he became king. In the books, he discovers a green stone from an elf when he's trying to get Frodo to Rivendell (after he's stabbed on Weathertop). He wears it for the rest of the story, and the people of Gondor dub him Elessar (meaning "Elf-Stone") while he's doing the healing thing that was cut out of the theatrical version of RotK. The only times he's called that in the films is either by Galadriel, in the extended FotR, or by Sauron, through the Ring in FotR and before "For Frodo" in RotK.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 01, 2004 11:38:52 am PDT #2690 of 3902
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thank you kathy. That clears it up.

I have to say, it was sort of nice to be able to gloss over random things I didn't understand, just figuring that it was explained in the book.

I watched FotR EE, TT EE and RotK over a 5 day period, so I must have imagined far more "elessars" than I heard. That or watching with closed captioning on made them stand out more.


Kathy A - Jun 01, 2004 11:45:40 am PDT #2691 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

When I first saw FotR in the theaters, I thought it was so cool that Sauron was the one to name Aragorn "Elessar"! I was such a book geek about the little things that I noticed that first time, including Gandalf's reference to that "business about the dragon," identifying Lobelia just from her obnoxious yelling at Bilbo through the door of Bag End, the book chapter shoutouts ("A long-expected party!" and "It was a shortcut." "A shortcut to what?" "Mushrooms!"), the fact that all of the food choices Bilbo was giving to Gandalf upon his arrival at Bag End were the items that the dwarves demanded of Bilbo in the beginning of The Hobbit.


Nutty - Jun 01, 2004 12:35:00 pm PDT #2692 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yeah. The whole "Elessar" name thing was vaguely portentous in the movie -- Galadriel does this big Important Pause, and says it, and it's all in subtitles and all -- whereas in the book, it's just like calling a dude by what he's wearing.

Hey you! Yeah, red suspenders! Get yer butt over here!

Somehow, King Red Suspenders doesn't sound quite as cool, but I bet it sounds cooler in Elvish.