Angel: Miss me? Lilah: Only in the sense of…no.

'Just Rewards (2)'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Miracleman - Apr 02, 2004 4:52:07 pm PST #2437 of 3902
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I think the trick would be to glue his hair into a support network of flying-buttress dreadlocks.

BWAH!!

I cannot describe the hysterical visual image I have in my head...


Nutty - Apr 03, 2004 6:50:44 am PST #2438 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I secretly suspect that any disappointment with movie-Strider in ROTK relates to the fact that he, for me anyway, makes an excellent disgruntled loner, and a pretty good renegade king-in-exile, but he's not all that much as a king-in-kingdom.

I take for proof of this his speech before the Morannon. It was -- eh. I mean, especially in comparison with Theoden's at the Pelennor Fields, which (1) had the advantage of being actually adapted from what Tolkien wrote, and (2) had a rip-snortin' delivery of the lines. Strider's speech, by contrast, felt like the preamble to a therapy session, both in word and delivery.


Volans - Apr 04, 2004 10:36:20 am PDT #2439 of 3902
move out and draw fire

What Jess and Nutty said.

I'm all about showing us the character growth of Aragorn; I like him visiting the memorial to his mother in the EE. I subscribe to the belief that the people who make the best leaders are the ones who are so very aware of the cost and responsibility. I think you could have that and yet have less Thera!gorn.

Part of it is casting also: Viggo was perfect for Strider, but was often out-kinged by Bernard Hill. But, if you have to choose between someone to play Strider and someone to play King Elessar, go with Strider.

I'm trying to wait until the ROTK EE to really critique it, though. The additional footage may very well enhance Aragorn's kingliness.


Liese S. - Apr 04, 2004 1:32:39 pm PDT #2440 of 3902
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I kind of like an uncomfortable king. There's a character reason why Elessar chose to become Strider. But yeah, I know what you mean.

We don't know when we're getting the extendoversion for sure yet, right? November?


Kate P. - Apr 04, 2004 4:47:35 pm PDT #2441 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Thinking about it at work today, I decided that I like what PJ did with Aragorn's character. I actually don't get a real sense of "I don't wanna be king!" from Aragorn so much as "I don't know if I'm worthy to be king"--which I think is a more interesting storyline anyway, and one that has more basis in the book.

Part of it is casting also: Viggo was perfect for Strider, but was often out-kinged by Bernard Hill. But, if you have to choose between someone to play Strider and someone to play King Elessar, go with Strider.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me too.

I take for proof of this his speech before the Morannon. It was -- eh.

(The Morannon is the Black Gate, right?) Is it just me, or was there a slightly different version of that speech in the previews? I remember it giving me huge chills in the preview, due in part to the ringing tones in which it was delivered, and it seemed thinner, somehow, in the movie itself. His voice seemed a little more strained, a little weaker, and so the speech wasn't as powerful as I'd remembered it. Anyone else notice that? Or are we talking about a different speech entirely?, in which case, never mind.


Jeff Mejia - Apr 04, 2004 7:11:22 pm PDT #2442 of 3902
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

We don't know when we're getting the extendoversion for sure yet, right? November?

I think it might be a little later than that, if I remember correctly. No definitive date has been set yet.


sumi - Apr 05, 2004 4:38:36 am PDT #2443 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

No no no! It must come out in Mid-November!!!

For my birthday!


Una - Apr 05, 2004 11:15:06 am PDT #2444 of 3902
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

I take for proof of this his speech before the Morannon. It was -- eh.

(The Morannon is the Black Gate, right?) Is it just me, or was there a slightly different version of that speech in the previews?

It's not just you. I had the same disppointment.

Anyway, forget that speech---the one he gives right after being crowned? Who replaced Elessar with a cardboard standee?

edited 'cause I know how to spell sometimes


Nutty - Apr 05, 2004 4:30:25 pm PDT #2445 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It's the hair -- he is like Samson. Sweaty and unbrushed and gross: rowr. Give Strider access to Prell and he goes all wrong-y. The day someone explains ponytail holders to him, he will suddenly turn into a nebbish.


Volans - Apr 05, 2004 6:27:19 pm PDT #2446 of 3902
move out and draw fire

The day someone explains ponytail holders to him, he will suddenly turn into a nebbish.

Won't be the elves. But Arwen and Aragorn may sit around the palace braiding each others' hair.