When I saw the first night showing of TTT, there were two babies in the audience (crying off and on the whole time).
You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
megan walker - Dec 17, 2003 6:13:43 am PST #24 of 3902
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Cashmere - Dec 17, 2003 6:14:09 am PST #25 of 3902
Now tagless for your comfort.
RotK was balance for me with WTF moments and the thrill of the things PJ got exactly right (IMO).
I have a list of nitpicks, but I'm going to nap on them first.
Jessica - Dec 17, 2003 6:15:39 am PST #26 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
My audience was pretty good except for one guy yelling "OH, COME ON, JUST *END* ALREADY!" when they faded up to Sam coming home.
Which was annoying, but I did kind of sympathize (it being nearly 4 am), except that the ensuing laughter threatened to drown out Well, I'm Back.
flea - Dec 17, 2003 6:37:28 am PST #27 of 3902
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When I saw the first night showing of TTT, there were two babies in the audience (crying off and on the whole time).
This is why I am being a good parent, if a bad geek, and waiting. Until Xmas week so grandmother can babysit.
megan walker - Dec 17, 2003 6:46:37 am PST #28 of 3902
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Putting aside the parenting issue, if you're geeky enough to want to see the movie on the first night, buying tickets ahead of time, etc., don't you want to enjoy it without distraction?
ted r - Dec 17, 2003 6:47:21 am PST #29 of 3902
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein
From the Salon review:
Tolkien purists may be less happy with "The Return of the King" than with the other chapters of Jackson's trilogy. Several subplots have been dropped entirely... and others...have been whittled to almost nothing. In some alternate universe, Jackson could have made a 30-hour miniseries to make such people happy. In this universe, he has merely made the grandest and most delicate of pop spectacles, an epic that is heroic but almost never grandiose, a story of war that understands that within every great victory there lies a kind of defeat.
§ ita § - Dec 17, 2003 6:53:54 am PST #30 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Several subplots have been dropped entirely... and others...have been whittled to almost nothing
This is intensely frustrating. I'm assuming that's what accounts, for instance for the superpowers and the lost Faramir/Eowyn -- no time to go to the healing halls. It couldn't have been longer, but it should have been.
We didn't have those laugh points. There were some Gollum laugh moments that I didn't think very funny. Some "not done YET???" outbursts formed the bulk of our vibe harshers.
My "I totally don't see why you did THAT" for the movie was definitely the Arwen thing. Made precisely zero sense. Like the Ents coming to realisation so late in TTT and Carhadras in FotR, but moreso.
Megan E. - Dec 17, 2003 6:58:19 am PST #31 of 3902
Jessica - Dec 17, 2003 7:06:49 am PST #32 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I don't think it needed to be longer. I'd have been happy exchanging some of the endless amassing for battle scenes for more character moments, like the Houses of Healing.
§ ita § - Dec 17, 2003 7:10:18 am PST #33 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
See, Jess, I found those to be character scenes. In the senses of the characters involved, the nations as characters, and the quest as a character too.
If I went to snipping, it'd pretty much be a random 10s off of every third scene, or something.