Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


smonster - Dec 18, 2003 10:14:54 am PST #235 of 3902
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Mooom!!! JS is mellowing my harsh!!! AND earworming me with schmoopy Whitney Houston!

t /joke indicating i have neither time nor inclination to discuss further right now


JohnSweden - Dec 18, 2003 10:20:26 am PST #236 of 3902
I can't even.

/joke indicating i have neither time nor inclination to discuss further right now

Hee. Fair enough. I mean, discussing gender politics in Lord of the Rings can be tiresome enough in a pleasant room, with nice alcohol to hand. Which I'd be glad to do some time.

I'm really still in the glow of the movie (did I mention I see it again tomorrow?) and don't much want to get into that stuff either. I did want to at least throw it on the table. JRRT may be an old dead white guy and definitely a product of his times. He's still a treasure.

Edited: too many buts for my literary aesthetic.


Cashmere - Dec 18, 2003 10:24:11 am PST #237 of 3902
Now tagless for your comfort.

JRRT may be an old dead white guy and definitely a product of his times. He's still a treasure.

WROD.


tina f. - Dec 18, 2003 10:29:53 am PST #238 of 3902

t totally shallow

I just read that RotK now has the one day box office record with $34 million (beating the previous record holder - Phantom Menace by $6 million - take that Lucas!). And - still a 98% rating at rotten tomatoes with 142 reviews in the mix.

t /totally shallow


Consuela - Dec 18, 2003 10:36:05 am PST #239 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

One day box office record -- on a Wednesday. Heh!


§ ita § - Dec 18, 2003 10:43:57 am PST #240 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just listened to the Annie Lennox track for the first time.

I'm off to my tomb.

God, that was depressing.


tina f. - Dec 18, 2003 10:47:46 am PST #241 of 3902

Because I don't trust one-source reporting, I did some double checking.

The previous one day record holder was actually the first Harry Potter movie with $32.9 million and that record was set on its second day (a Saturday).

eta:

Awww crap. Sorry and nevermind. (I really hate it when I do this.)

"Matrix Reloaded," the second round in brothers Andy and Larry Wachowski's sci-fi trilogy, grossed a record 42.5 million dollars in its nationwide premier Thursday, CBS Marketwatch Report said Friday. The film's gross was the biggest ever in the United States on the day of its release, AOL Time Warner president Richard Parsons told the company's annual stockholders' meeting in Landsdowne, Virginia, on Friday. The previous record belonged to the film "Spiderman," which grossed 39.4 million on the day of its release last year.


Maysa - Dec 18, 2003 11:24:08 am PST #242 of 3902

I went to see it today at a 10:30 AM showing which was actually perfect because the crowd was mainly college students on break and retired people. Everyone seemed to be a pretty hardcore fan, probably much more hardcore than me. (I've only read the books once about two years ago.) So there was no innappropriate laughter or anything annoying except that the projectioner or something broke as Sam was saving Frodo from the Orcs. Luckily they fixed it within five minutes (and it actually provided a nice intermission). I loved the movie and it's just so amazing that they were even made. I've been worried for a month that they would end it with Aragorn's coronation, but I should have known that PJ has better judgement than that. The only thing that bothered me was that there was no scouring of the shire and no Saruman at the end . But I'm sure that will be on the DVD.

I think the best thing about these movies is the experience you get (if you're lucky) in the theater. Here it is, late morning/early afternoon on a Thursday, Everyone is enrapt, a 50-ish woman on my right is quietly sobbing through the entire last hour and a 65-ish man in front of me actually raises both his arms in the air everytime there's a heroic victory. There's not much that compares to it.


Kathy A - Dec 18, 2003 11:27:37 am PST #243 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

LotR haiku from the Seattle Times.

An Oscar for 'King'?
The trophy will be taller
than the movie's star.


sumi - Dec 18, 2003 11:47:18 am PST #244 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

wow.

I too went to the trilogy and then back to RotK the afternoon following.

On second viewing I cried much more -- I loved the Beacons, seeing the Rohirrim lined up to charge and so much more. On second viewing I noticed the White Tree in Bloom at the coronation, the way everything in Theoden's tent swayed from the wind, the lovely way that Sam's hole has flowers all around it and a floral doorknob and a gardening motive about the door . . . I also loved the very graceful Elven Smith - - was that one of the weta-guys? . . . he looked familiar. . . that Eomer's shoulders are twice as broad as everyone else's, the moments between Eowyn and Merry, Pippin, the lovely Elven ships and boats in comparison to the Corsairs ships and the Morgul boats.

Anyway, seeing it again on Saturday.

Also, my gift had Isildur floating down the Anduin, Aragorn tracking Merry and Pippin by the Orc pile (when I saw it I picked out Legolas first and couldn't figure out what the big blue thing next to him was) and a headshot of Denethor.

Well, Aragorn finding invisible signs of Merry and Pippin in the grass is one of my favorite things from both the book and movie of TTT so I'm very glad there.