Doesn't winter seem more like archiving season?

Willow ,'Lessons'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


sumi - Feb 08, 2004 3:34:39 am PST #1751 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

TORN has pictures.


Kathy A - Feb 08, 2004 9:45:07 am PST #1752 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

A decent (if too short) interview with Fran and Phillippa on LotR being a "boys' movie."

So what's with two girls writing a boys' film?

You could almost hear them scream.


sumi - Feb 08, 2004 12:33:48 pm PST #1753 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Kathy -- thanks for that link.

Also, apparently, Sean Astin is supposed to be a presenter on the Grammys tonight.

(That was from TORN -- they also say that Ian Holm remarried recently.)


Consuela - Feb 08, 2004 2:01:55 pm PST #1754 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I must admit, I am a complete sap.

Annie Lennox makes me cry when she sings, "why do the white gulls call?"

::sniffle::


sumi - Feb 08, 2004 3:00:31 pm PST #1755 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Is Annie Lennox singing that tonight?


Consuela - Feb 08, 2004 3:01:07 pm PST #1756 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have no idea, it's just on the soundtrack I'm listening to.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2004 3:58:47 pm PST #1757 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got halfway through the song on my soundtrack, and then couldn't listen to it again. I'm hoping, now that I've heard it over the credits that it won't bum me out as much.


Beverly - Feb 08, 2004 7:02:18 pm PST #1758 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

"...turns to silver glass..." gets me. It brings back the Pippin-Gandalf scene. And "here in my arms, just sleeping" breaks me. Still, every time.


Nutty - Feb 08, 2004 7:19:22 pm PST #1759 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I like that line (the veil rolling back, and all turns to silver glass, and beyond a far green country). I like even better that it's not actually a description of death -- it's a description of the Undying Lands. One of the things that I especially like about Tolkien's universe-building is that he doesn't have a big answer about human souls and heaven -- even Mandos does not know what happens to men when they die. They just do, and gift or curse it's a mystery.

So yes, Gandalf's description doesn't sound so bad, but Pippin will never actually see it, or if he does, he won't be able to report back.

I do like the Lennox song -- it's grown on me. Although, taken literally, some of the lyrics imply that the moon rises in the west. Some serious cardinal direction problems throughout the trilogy. Did I mention the part where, at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, the sun rises in the northwest?


Kate P. - Feb 09, 2004 4:33:21 am PST #1760 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Oh, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who still cries at "Into the West"! The entire second verse kills me. "Hope fades, into the world of night/ through shadows falling, out of memory and time/ don't say we have come now to the end/ white shores are calling, you and I will meet again/ and you'll be here in my arms, just sleeping..." wah!

On edit: Nutty, yeah, I also love how Tolkein treated death in Middle-Earth. Another moment that gets me is Theoden saying (paraphrased): "I go now to the halls of my fathers, in whose company I shall know neither fear nor shame."