This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund.

Niska ,'War Stories'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


§ ita § - Dec 17, 2003 5:34:17 am PST #13 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ah, right. I remember. More hair and makeup than normal.


Cashmere - Dec 17, 2003 5:53:58 am PST #14 of 3902
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'd also like to note for the record that LieseS is a goddess for selling me her Trilogy Tuesday tickets. It is an experience I will always cherish.


Volans - Dec 17, 2003 5:55:44 am PST #15 of 3902
move out and draw fire

There's no doubt that PJ's sense of humor, etc, is more in tune with the viewing audience than mine, and if I compare movies to books, then yeah, I would've done it differently. Maybe not better, but differently. But from a completely movie-only standpoint, I felt the screenplay had some weaknesses. Like Jess said, these will probably be rectified in the EE, but I think that's cheating.

For example: (spoiler font, GO!)

What happened to the other 8 Nazgul? They didn't just run home like the troll or fall into a chasm.

Why the big buildup for Faramir with no real resolution?

How did Merry go from dying on the battlefield to riding to the Morannen?

The whole story arc with Arwen made not one bit of sense. She's suddenly tied to the ring? She's suddenly actually dying and not just mortal? If that's true, shouldn't she have married Frodo or Sam, since they took direct action against the ring?

What happened to the one-eyed piggy orc commander?

Some of these may be actually answered in the movie, and I just missed it because it had been a long day. Fortunately I get to see it again Friday!

I do think that the ultimate message was that good leaders have beards.

Oh, and my little frame thing had Frodo, Gandalf and the Gang of Three in Fangorn, and Pippin on the balcony.


megan walker - Dec 17, 2003 5:58:09 am PST #16 of 3902
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

You are all making me so jealous. I'm so sad I have to wait for my 10-year-old nephew to "surprise" me with RotK tickets for Christmas!


Kat - Dec 17, 2003 5:58:40 am PST #17 of 3902
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ah, right. I remember. More hair and makeup than normal.

More hair than normal? How could that be possible?!


Jessica - Dec 17, 2003 6:01:34 am PST #18 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Raquel:

1 - Presumably, their power was also tied to the One Ring, and so they all fizzled out when the Eye did. Also, they're scared of birds.

2 - EE

3 - Superpowers.

4 - That would be my biggest "the FUCK?" moment, too. Especially as there was one line about it, and then no resolution until she shows up, not dying anymore, at the end. WhatEVer.

5 - Killed by the Paths of the Dead army is my guess.


Jessica - Dec 17, 2003 6:03:15 am PST #19 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Regarding Sauron's destruction, I can't have been the only one laughing hysterically at the Eye looking around all panicky as Barad-Dur collapsed. It just looked so silly.


amych - Dec 17, 2003 6:04:50 am PST #20 of 3902
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Kat beat me to the more hair snark.

edit to avoid cereal: My most serious jealousy is reserved, not for the folks who've already seen it, but for my friends who are leaving for New Zealand today. Harumph.


Volans - Dec 17, 2003 6:06:23 am PST #21 of 3902
move out and draw fire

Yeah, see, fanwanking and EE do not a strong screenplay make. It was a helluva ride, though. And pretty!

And no, you weren't the only one. Our crowd was in hysterics, which redoubled with the fade-in of Sam and Frodo STILL ON THE ROCK.


tina f. - Dec 17, 2003 6:08:51 am PST #22 of 3902

I think my biggest WTF was the missing Eowyn and Faramir story. (Not to mention the missing Faramir story.) Here is this character that you have been made to love and cheer on and etc. and she gets told "I cannot give you what you want" from the man she loves and then boom - she's all smiley watching that man kiss his princess. And all we get is a "How you doin'" sidelong glance from Faramir as the end of her story. It annoyed.

I'm very jealous of people who had good crowds. Again, because mine SUCKED.