Wesley: Feng Shui. Gunn: Right. What's that mean again? Wesley: That people will believe anything. Actually, in this place, Feng Shui will probably have enormous significance. I'll align my furniture the wrong way and suddenly catch fire or turn into a pudding.

'Conviction (1)'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Emily - Dec 22, 2005 11:31:22 am PST #9664 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

having one detective explain whodunnit to another without telling us.

I'm confused what you mean by this. Do you mean one detective told another who the culprit was, but the author never explained how it was figured out, or one detective told another off-page, as it were?


Ginger - Dec 22, 2005 11:35:10 am PST #9665 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

PD James does occasionally do the annoying thing when one character says to another, "Let me tell you what we found in the house," and then we don't learn what that was until they're arresting the murderer. In her recent books, my main problem is that, for my taste, we spend way too much time with the murderer and the victims. In some books, I get awfully fond of the the victims before they're brutally murdered and in others I think I would have murdered this person myself.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2005 1:08:46 pm PST #9666 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't mind getting to know the victims - in fact, I rather like it. More impact with the murder.

What she did was to go something like this:

"I've worked out how the murder was committed," said Dalgliesh.

"Do tell," said Inspector Reckless.

The wind battered the tiny cottage during the conversation. Reckless leaned back in his chair when Dalgliesh was done.

"You're right," he said. "That will be hard to prove."


Dana - Dec 22, 2005 3:25:58 pm PST #9667 of 10002
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

That's not exclusive to her, just FYI. I've seen that trick pulled in everything from Sherlock Holmes to Peter Wimsey.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2005 4:28:13 pm PST #9668 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wasn't touting it as a rare new breed of storytelling never before seen in nature -- I've, you know, read books and seen it before. I'm just trying to avoid it if it's her characteristic. Hell, that's why I don't read as much Holmes as I might otherwise--that and the arcane twisted knowledge required to solve the crimes.

Honestly, I don't mind a character saying "I know how it's done." and it not being shared. It's references to conversations with actual information in them that's not shared.


Calli - Dec 23, 2005 7:47:12 am PST #9669 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

For Good Omens fans. Gaiman and Pratchett came up with New Year's resolutions for Crowley and Aziraphale: [link]


Anne W. - Dec 23, 2005 4:16:15 pm PST #9670 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm trying to track down the short story that "Brokeback Mountain" was based on. Any clue where it was published, what collection it might be in, or even if it was ever published online?


Sue - Dec 23, 2005 4:25:20 pm PST #9671 of 10002
hip deep in pie

Anne, it was originally published in the New Yorker, and I thought I saw a link to the story on their website somewhere in my interbunny travels. Let me check the usual suspects.


Sue - Dec 23, 2005 4:27:52 pm PST #9672 of 10002
hip deep in pie

Here's a cached version from Google: [link]


Anne W. - Dec 23, 2005 4:28:02 pm PST #9673 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Thanks, Sue! If I can track this down, it will absolutely make my mom's Christmas. She's a huge Annie Proulx fan, and hasn't been able to find the story anywhere.

ETA: THANK YOU!!!!

Mom's getting gay cowboys for Christmas! Whee!