Personally, I got no beef with Mickey Mouse, and all other wizards I will have to take on a case-by-case basis.
On another tack, O ye romance readers, how many of you read Sir Walter Scott or Alexandre Dumas? And can you express why you do/don't?
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Nutty - Nov 11, 2005 8:22:18 am PST #9445 of 10002
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Connie Neil - Nov 11, 2005 8:23:49 am PST #9446 of 10002
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The only Dumas I've read is Count of Monte Cristo. I cherish my unabridged copy that was stolen for my from my old high school's library. Edmund Dantes (the Count) gets tiresome, but the rest of the characters are fascinating.
edit: Oh, and I've read Ivanhoe. the unabridged was a whole lot more interesting than the abridged I got in school. The Ivanhoe characters were a tad more three-dimensional than the Monte Cristo characters.
I haven't read the other stories by either of them.
Sophia Brooks - Nov 11, 2005 8:29:06 am PST #9447 of 10002
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Nutty- I responded it movies, but I generally find I can't read Dumas or Scott. Especially Scott. I think because of the generally floweryness and density. Same thing with Henry James, actually. I must have tried to read Portrait of a Lady 15 billion times. I am not sure why, as I can read Thomas Hardy, who many people find really tough going.
flea - Nov 11, 2005 8:31:20 am PST #9448 of 10002
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I have read Monte Cristo, as you know, and I would hardly classify it as romance, at least in the modern sense that I think you were using in "ye romance readers" above. I'd call it, um, melodrama?
Nutty - Nov 11, 2005 8:36:52 am PST #9449 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Okay, The Count of Monte Cristo is actually a swashbuckling melodrama. But with a big romantic element, what with Young Morrel and Valentine Wossname. I mean, okay, 1500 pages, so a lot happens, but...?
How about The Three Musketeers?
Susan W. - Nov 11, 2005 9:30:02 am PST #9450 of 10002
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O ye romance readers, how many of you read Sir Walter Scott or Alexandre Dumas? And can you express why you do/don't?
I haven't, but not for any deeper reason than "haven't gotten around to it yet."
ION, I've become convinced I really need to give Dorothy Dunnett a second try. I attempted the first Lymond book years ago and never got past the first chapter. Any advice?
flea - Nov 11, 2005 9:53:47 am PST #9451 of 10002
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I haven't read Three Musketeers, but isn't it about, um, men? Also, doesn't it swash and buckle. One of the defining characteristics of a modern romance is it's about a woman and a man (or, to not exclude homosexual romance, about a bonded romantic pair), not four guys who are buddies and one of them has a girlfriend.
DavidS - Nov 11, 2005 9:55:39 am PST #9452 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
not four guys who are buddies and one of them has a girlfriend.
There's an ex-girlfriend too. She's evil and kills the girlfriend. Then she herself is killed. So by the end of the book? NSM with the women messing up the menage a quatre.
Connie Neil - Nov 11, 2005 9:57:36 am PST #9453 of 10002
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Older definitions of "romance" re: books seems to tend to something more adventurous than stories about everyday life. Such as when people talk about living in a more "romantic" era. I think it's a somewhat more intellectually acceptable term than melodrama.
Connie Neil - Nov 11, 2005 9:57:40 am PST #9454 of 10002
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So nice I said it twice.