Reynolds, I'm a dangerous-minded man on a ship loaded with hurt. Now, why you got me chatting with your peons?

Womack ,'The Message'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DebetEsse - Sep 17, 2005 5:07:10 am PDT #9123 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think it's definately important, but I have no idea how. We mention it, I'm pretty sure, during dicussion somewhere


§ ita § - Sep 18, 2005 12:27:01 pm PDT #9124 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just finished The Constant Gardener, and there's some spycraft in there too.

I loved the book. That man can turn a phrase, well aside from the subject matter and plot. Damn.

I cannot forgive Tepper for Fresco. It wasn't just sexist, it was facile and beyond anvils. I still want to reread her YA stuff, but her adult stuff is pretty poisoned for me now.


Consuela - Sep 18, 2005 7:58:37 pm PDT #9125 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

ita, I plan to read the book: yours is the second recommendation I've had lately, and the movie was excellent.


sarameg - Sep 19, 2005 9:48:32 am PDT #9126 of 10002

Yay! Now go see the movie and tell me if it will make me mad. Or if it stands enough on its own that I won't get nitpicky.


Jessica - Sep 19, 2005 10:22:37 am PDT #9127 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This is just damn cool. Keep your bookpile online for all to see! Like Flickr for books. Kind of.


Volans - Sep 19, 2005 9:41:01 pm PDT #9128 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I just came across this line in a review of the new Takeshi Kovacs book ( Woken Furies ):

On Kovacs's home plant, Harlan's World (an allusion to Ellison, perhaps?), for example, still-functioning Martian satellites automatically destroy any aircraft that rises above a certain altitude.

Did I miss something? I didn't think those satellites were Martian; I thought they were an artifact of the fighting back in the Quellcrist Falconer days?

Of course, it took me three tries to not type the new title as Woken Furries, so there you go.


Jim - Sep 19, 2005 10:04:33 pm PDT #9129 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

If you like Constant Gardener it's worth trying any of the '70s le Carres: They're more institutional, but have the same sense of outrage and detail.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2005 8:52:56 am PDT #9130 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have a terminology question -- how do you describe the PoV when you get to hear every character's thoughts? Is that third omniscient? Is it completely unrelated to third omniscient?

I recently read Deception On His Mind which was much edgier than the TV episode (Detective Lynley), but IRRITATING. We get to hear everyone's thoughts, but no one thinks of anything until the police have discovered it. So we're in the minds of people with secrets, but they handily never think of these secrets until Havers works them out.


Amy - Sep 21, 2005 8:57:29 am PDT #9131 of 10002
Because books.

Yeah, that's third omniscient, although I always just call it omniscient.

I'm reading her newest right now, With No One as Witness, and really, really not liking it. Sob. Elizabeth George used to be one of my all-time favorites.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2005 9:00:18 am PDT #9132 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I remember seeing somewhere that the TV Lynley wasn't like the book Lynley, and made a quick-forgotten note to check the books out. Then this book lands in my lap, I recognise Havers, get excited, and then realise that the TV people inserted him into the episode, because he sure doesn't show up on the page.

So I still don't know what he's like on paper -- is there a particular point at which you'd recommend me stopping reading her? I mean, before With No One As Witness?