And boys -- let's watch the swearing.

Mayor ,'Chosen'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


P.M. Marc - Sep 12, 2005 5:18:29 pm PDT #9072 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think Monstrous Regiment stands pretty well solo, too.


Emily - Sep 12, 2005 5:27:12 pm PDT #9073 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Oh yes, that's true. And maybe Pyramids, Pyramids?


Gandalfe - Sep 12, 2005 5:37:43 pm PDT #9074 of 10002
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Or Cohen. That guy slays me.

If you're not careful.

Emily, that's the one I started with, too. Oh, so many years ago. And I now own every one of them, including The Last Hero. And am going to place my order for Thud! on Friday, when I have money.


Polter-Cow - Sep 13, 2005 3:48:45 am PDT #9075 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Meeeechigan.

Hey! Going to be in my area at all?

My first Pratchett was Lords and Ladies, and it hooked me good.

Also, I still haven't read a Vimes book. I know, I know. But I was told to read the Night Watch books in chronological order, and my library visits never rewarded me with the first one.


Emily - Sep 13, 2005 4:11:51 am PDT #9076 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Yes, but as I fly in late Friday night for a Saturday wedding and leave Sunday, I doubt I'll have much time for anything but a quick hello-goodbye to the people actually at the wedding!


Connie Neil - Sep 13, 2005 5:22:12 am PDT #9077 of 10002
brillig

I was not that impressed with Monstrous Regiment. It seemed to suffer from too much of its main premise. Truth is a good one that doesn't need a lot of backstory.


Emily - Sep 13, 2005 6:55:25 am PDT #9078 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

There's a couple of jokes that make more sense if you have some of the City Watch backstory, but on the whole, yeah. Same with whachamacallit, the one with Glom of Nigt.


Polter-Cow - Sep 13, 2005 4:48:48 pm PDT #9079 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Given the recent Discworld talk, I think some of you should check out this post from a friend of mine. She wants to organize a U.S. Discworld Con. Terry promises to come.


Susan W. - Sep 14, 2005 3:31:21 pm PDT #9080 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm reading a book by a male author, which is somewhat unusual for me (with a few notable exceptions, e.g. my Patrick O'Brian glom from last year). It's not that I have a conscious bias against male authors, but A) I read a lot of romance, and B) even in other genres I tend to be drawn to female protagonists, so I tend to pick mostly books by women.

I'm enjoying the book tremendously, but something about the two female characters I've met so far is really rubbing me the wrong way. It's not like they're flawed while the men are perfect--everyone in this story is pretty damn messed up in one way or another. But the women don't quite seem real, more like projections of male wishes and fears. I'm not naming the author, because it's still early enough in the book that the characterization may improve. Also, it may be that the unreality of the female characters is a reflection of the male protagonist's shallowness and immaturity at this point in the story. If further reading of this book or others by the same author lead me to that conclusion, I'll happily change my opinion from, "He doesn't get women--does he even like us?" to, "Damn, he's good. Must take notes for own growth as a writer."

But it's got me musing on the larger topic of how men write women and how women write men. While I've certainly encountered woman authors who can't write men well, I've also read many whose men seem realistic--at least going by my outside observer's perspective on what makes for a realistic man! I've had less luck with finding male authors who write women well--even some of my favorites just don't seem to quite get women.

So. I wondered how much of this is just my perspective as a woman. Do the men here have the same complaints about women authors just not getting them? Or am I just not reading the right male authors?


Amy - Sep 14, 2005 3:45:25 pm PDT #9081 of 10002
Because books.

Susan, in too many romances I find the men to be complete fantasy projections of what the author wants (or maybe assumes her readership wants). But then the women are sometimes too romanticized for me, too.

In terms of male authors, I'm like you -- I don't read many. I always found Stephen King, strangely, to write women pretty well.