The terms 'bloody' and 'bugger' are nearly as hard as the term 'fuck' (not quite the same magnitude, but a damn sight closer to that than, 'damn it'), so you can imagine how taken aback we were when 11 year old Ron said "That's bloody brilliant" to his new teacher in the first movie. He'd have been STRAIGHT in detention if he said that to me.

Surely not. Here in Oz we had a commercial on at prime time that featured every member of the family, including the dog, taking turns at saying 'bugger'. Hell, I have a hat with 'BUGGER' written on it in large gold capital letters.

I think you should add the caveat "for kids". Bloody and bugger are about as rude as Shit, I'd say.

Snogging means proper kissing - not a peck on the cheek. Kissing with tongues.

Ah. More "necking" than "kissing."

I've always thought "snogging" sounded dirtier than "shagging".

I say bugger and bloody all the time, and folks just think I'm quaint. Then I had a boss who'd grown up in England, and she just about had a heart attack when I let off a riff of "bloody, buggering heck." (You have to say 'Heck' in Utah, otherwise the earth will open and we'll fall straight into the Pit. And, no, I'm not sacrificing myself for that good cause.)

I say bugger and bloody all the time, and folks just think I'm quaint. Then I had a boss who'd grown up in England, and she just about had a heart attack when I let off a riff of "bloody, buggering heck."

Hee. Interestingly, the only people who've ever given me grief about saying 'bugger' were Mormons. Naturally, I mocked them for it.

Huh. I thought 'bloody' was akin to 'very'. I've heard so many versions of 'bloody marvelous', 'bloody good', etc.

I'm listening to the final cd of HP6...for the manyeth time. I'm still pathetic with the but...but...it says that Hagrid carried something in his arms at the funeral that "Harry knew to be Dumbledore's body." It doesn't say Hagrid carried Dumbledore's body! dammit.

Ah well, my grief will cycle to resolution soon I suppose.

(Wishing I'd been born somewhere without school spirit...even without the sexy accents. Or at least that I might have done the voice so people might have stopped breaking my ovaries over lack of same."We don't do that where I come from.")

I think you should add the caveat "for kids". Bloody and bugger are about as rude as Shit, I'd say.

Given the context, I didn't think that was neccesary. I'm talking about the language used by an 11 year old to his teacher in a Harry Potter film. I say 'fuck' all the time, and 'cunt' without flinching, but I was shocked. I wouldn't say 'bloody'* in front of my students, or expect them to say it to me. My impression was that it was being used with the intention of having the kind of impact of 'Flipping' or 'Ruddy', whereas it's a lot closer to the magnitude of 'fucking'. (Note I say closer, not the same magnitude.) Still, perhaps 'fuck' has greater shock value for other people.

Fuckwits.

I thought 'bloody' was akin to 'very'.

In that it's used in the same way, yes. But so is 'fucking'. 'Bloody' isn't as strong as 'Fucking', but it's closer to that than it is to 'Very', imho.

Granted, I swear pretty much nonstop, so perhaps I'm downplaying the naughtiness of the word 'fucking'.

*er. or 'fuck' or 'cunt', obviously.

Again I say, I'm sure Dumbledore is not only merely dead but clearly and sincerely dead -- otoh, a) the thing is full of phoenix imagery; b) the first potion they make in class is Draught of the Living Death; c) Dumbledore offered to fake Draco's death; d) it would be tactically sensible for Voldy to think Dumbledore was dead; e) there was ENDLESS talk of silent spell-casting; and d) Snapes Avada Kedavra blew his victim off the tower -- and AK doesn't generally do that.

Frankly, it could go either way and I wouldn't be surprised.