But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


sumi - Jun 29, 2005 1:31:55 pm PDT #8019 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I think that Laura's ring was a pearl and garnets.

Thanks for the link -- that would be a great accompaniment to a reread of the books!


Susan W. - Jun 29, 2005 5:00:23 pm PDT #8020 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

A question for fellow romance readers: Are books with heroes who rape the heroines actually still out there? As in, published by a reasonably major print publisher in the last 5 years as a new work, not a reissue of a Woodiwiss or something?

(This question may or may not be related to a writing contest entry I'm judging, with a hero who may or may not be the complete opposite of anything I'd ever find heroic.)


Deena - Jun 29, 2005 5:16:37 pm PDT #8021 of 10002
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Susan, I do not know of any in at least 5 years, and I read a lot of romance.


Susan W. - Jun 29, 2005 6:04:32 pm PDT #8022 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I didn't think so, but I'm a fairly selective reader, so I thought there might be a whole mini-trend I'm missing out on. In general, I'm surprised how many contest entries I've run across that feel like throwbacks to those 1970's bodice rippers.

The wip has a scene where a villain attempts to rape the heroine--she fights back, buying herself enough time that the hero is able to come to the rescue. I remember writing the scene and thinking, "Back in the day, a lot of authors would've had the rapist be the hero," and finding the idea sickening.


Consuela - Jun 29, 2005 6:44:38 pm PDT #8023 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Are books with heroes who rape the heroines

Laura Kinsale's The Shadow and the Star. Twice. It's Micole's favorite Kinsale, and it seriously put me off her. Although I don't think it came out in the last 5 years, don't know how old it is.


Susan W. - Jun 29, 2005 6:51:13 pm PDT #8024 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Pretty sure that's older than 5 years. I've never read it, but I generally adore Kinsale. Interesting.


Steph L. - Jun 29, 2005 6:54:18 pm PDT #8025 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Is there a web site where you can search for a book by describing it? (Versus the way you search on Amazon, for instance.) I seem to remember someone mentioning something like that a while ago....


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 29, 2005 10:02:22 pm PDT #8026 of 10002
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

abebooks.co.uk? I've never used it, but I've heard good things about their BookSleuth forum.


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2005 8:09:03 am PDT #8027 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Need to feed Commonwealth kiddie nostalgia?


Fred Pete - Jul 03, 2005 8:02:37 am PDT #8028 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Just heard on Internet radio --

The new Harry Potter book has 607 pages.