We can come by between classes. Usually I use that time to copy over my class notes with a system of different colored pens. But it's been pointed out to me that that's, you know...insane.

Willow ,'Showtime'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


joe boucher - Jun 17, 2005 7:10:25 am PDT #7923 of 10002
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I'm looking for advice on Hispanic lit.

First you need to decide what you mean by Hispanic: Spanish language? Spanish language diaspora? Latin America? Central America/Caribbean? Hispanic American immigrants & their descendants? If something is written in English by an American is the subject matter enough to make it Hispanic? I'll even give a complicated suggestion which points up some of the problems: Los Bros Hernandez' Love and Rockets series. I don't think there's much doubt that it rises to the level of literature, but while Gilbert's Palomar stories are an easy sell as Hispanic, what about Jaime's Hopey and Maggie stories? They are Latinas (Esperanza and Margarita) living in Southern California.


sumi - Jun 17, 2005 7:34:38 am PDT #7924 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I read Moby-Dick as a junior in high school and haven't read it since. Perhaps it's a book that just doesn't do well when the only time you read it is in high school?


joe boucher - Jun 17, 2005 7:55:28 am PDT #7925 of 10002
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Perhaps it's a book that just doesn't do well when the only time you read it is in high school?

Probably true unless it grabbed you immediately or you were lucky enough to have a teacher (or someone) tell you, "No, it's not you, the book is really really weird. You may not be getting it, but even if you are it's still weird. 30 pages of whale-related quotations, a narrative that stops and starts for the first 500 pages, lots of arcane digressions, more hoyay! than you can shake your Angel DVDs at, Melville's peculiar sense of humor, formal experiments. Some people find all that too off-putting, but if you stick with it and take it on its terms, get into its rhythms, it's pretty great. Odd, but great."


joe boucher - Jun 17, 2005 8:04:07 am PDT #7926 of 10002
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Jim, this may interest you.


Kathy A - Jun 17, 2005 8:04:29 am PDT #7927 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Moby Dick is up there with Ulysses in the category of "Books Required for College Classes that I Suffered Through." But, they are both trumped by Fielding's Tom Jones, which is the only one in the category of "Books I Dropped the Class Rather Than Read."


erikaj - Jun 17, 2005 8:15:09 am PDT #7928 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

One of the few books I've never attempted. After Infinite Jest, anything should be easier, though.


DavidS - Jun 17, 2005 8:23:05 am PDT #7929 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Any Buffistas read it?

Me me! I love Moby Dick to bits. Yes, I agree, Jim, that its a huge influence on that whole generation of metafiction writers that Pynchon belonged with. Particularly, as you note, the multiple voices, examining the subject from 8,000 angles, scholarly, mythically, dramatically (love the little play in the middle, love the freakass sermon at the beginning). There are obvious elements of Medieval Romance in it too.

erika, it's not a particularly difficult read as long as you understand going in that big chunks of it are essentially non-fiction reportage about whaling. Which (I think) is essential because once you are steeped in that world, the metaphors became much more complex and rich.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2005 8:25:04 am PDT #7930 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So I'm about a third of the way through Moby Dick....

Any Buffistas read it?

Ahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

I'm not laughing at *you,* Jim. Just the question. Because answering it seems to get me in all kinds of trouble.

So in answer to your question, I will just say: yes. I have.


DavidS - Jun 17, 2005 8:26:12 am PDT #7931 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've read "1000 Years of Solitude"

Ten times better than One Hundred Years of Solitude.


-t - Jun 17, 2005 8:27:08 am PDT #7932 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

While I was reading Moby Dick, I heard someone on the radio read his favorite passage out loud. It was a stirring and beautiful. I had just read that passage myself a few days before and gotten not nearly as much out of it.