You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Angus G - Feb 03, 2005 4:18:43 pm PST #6990 of 10002
Roguish Laird

The Maltese Falcon is an absolutely amazing book for narrative theory geeks, because the entire story is told from Sam Spade's point of view (we never see anything Sam doesn't see) and yet we never find out a single thing that Sam is thinking, it has no interiority whatsoever.

NB it's possible I'm actually thinking of a different book, in which case I blushingly retract the above.


erikaj - Feb 03, 2005 6:54:45 pm PST #6991 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I think you're right. No need to blush, Angus.


Jim - Feb 03, 2005 10:23:18 pm PST #6992 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Chandler is so not better than Hammett. He's more fun, but Hammet's flinty coldness is amazing.


Nutty - Feb 04, 2005 4:32:08 am PST #6993 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

it has no interiority whatsoever

Yes, you've got the right book in mind. Totally surprised me, when I read it. I would venture it's almost the sole source of suspense, not not-knowing how to get the falcon, but not-knowing how to feel about the viewpoint character.

I understand what Erika's about, too. When you compare Spade to Chandler's Philip Marlowe, you'll definitely like Marlowe more as a character. Because you can know him, and he's entertaining (and, rarely, moving), and because you can reasonably expect he's a right guy. Spade, you can't ever really be sure, and that's fascinating, but it's also very uncomfortable.


DXMachina - Feb 04, 2005 4:37:11 am PST #6994 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Spade, you can't ever really be sure, and that's fascinating, but it's also very uncomfortable.

True that. I spent most of my read of TMF really disliking Spade.


Betsy HP - Feb 04, 2005 6:18:53 am PST #6995 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

They didn't list Jack Vance's The Moon Moth, so I refuse to vote.


DavidS - Feb 04, 2005 7:41:47 am PST #6996 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

They didn't list Jack Vance's The Moon Moth, so I refuse to vote.

They had several Dying Earth stories, though.

Chandler is so not better than Hammett. He's more fun, but Hammet's flinty coldness is amazing.

I concur with this. I remember Wm. Gibson plumping for Hammett over Chandler too. I like Chandler - the similes, the snarky descriptions and snarky dialogue - all juicy fun. Hammett's very evocative but hard. It's especially notable with him when he backs off the hardness just a little - the effect is big. Like the famous last line of Red Harvest.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 04, 2005 11:26:49 am PST #6997 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I was just thrilled that they included both Peter Beagle's "Come Lady Death" and the best of C.L. Moore's Jirel stories. There were enough really good stories I remember from my youth that LeGuin and Lovecraft didn't make the cut.


billytea - Feb 05, 2005 1:46:05 am PST #6998 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Heh. Since returning to Australia, my reading matter has been almost entirely Doctor Who novels. About thirty of them, I think.

No, really, I can quit anytime I want.


Jesse - Feb 05, 2005 6:07:50 am PST #6999 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hey, y'all, this week's This American Life has a segment at the Romance Writers of America conference.