Zoe: Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing? Book: Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

'War Stories'


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Atropa - Jan 04, 2005 9:01:02 am PST #6784 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I bought JZ Sorcery and Cecelia based on recommendations here from Jilli and Betsy (I think).

Now you need to get her College of Magics and Scholar of Magics by Caroline Stevemer.

SF Chron reviewed a novel of interest for the board: The Letters of Mina Harker

Well, I guess I better go track that down.


erikaj - Jan 04, 2005 9:06:52 am PST #6785 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

No, I've not read the latest Roth, but I am a big fan...the Breast being badfic, notwithstanding.


Betsy HP - Jan 04, 2005 9:07:29 am PST #6786 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

"Who's Your Daddy" is now mainstream. (I never knew it wasn't.)

[link]

So. Which of the following are too salacious for casual use: "sucks", "bites", "who's your daddy?"

The author of the article thinks 1 and 3 are okay, but 2 is too much.


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2005 9:10:39 am PST #6787 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

While the phrase has its innocent overtones -- in the 1969 Zombies hit "Time of the Season," the singer investigates a potential love interest by inquiring, "What's your name, who's your daddy?"

Really? I never thought that was even slightly innocent.


erikaj - Jan 04, 2005 9:12:09 am PST #6788 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Um, no... and mostly I'm subtext-impaired.


Connie Neil - Jan 04, 2005 9:18:48 am PST #6789 of 10002
brillig

I always thought "who's your daddy" in that song was him asking "Is your father important in this town or can I do waht I want to you without getting in trouble?"


Calli - Jan 04, 2005 9:20:59 am PST #6790 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think the next line of the song is, "Is he rich like me?" so I figured the singer was trying to figure out if the object of his attention would be impressed by him or not. (Me = not, by the way)


§ ita § - Jan 04, 2005 9:21:54 am PST #6791 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I figured that the daddy was the same sort of daddy in the phrase "sugar daddy" -- not quite a blood relation, though other fluids may be shared.


Nutty - Jan 04, 2005 9:22:34 am PST #6792 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So. Which of the following are too salacious for casual use: "sucks", "bites", "who's your daddy?"

FWIW, I have been chronicling the Boston Globe's censors by how they quote their baseball players. (The writers are not adroit enough to avoid direct quotations that include unprintables, so they put in [bracketed euphemisms].)

"Bites" has not been an issue, but "I don't give a shit" became "I don't give a [care]" -- that latter construction being unique to the Northeast, to my knowledge.

Someone said in September that, "Contrary to popular opinion, the Yankees don't suck", which became "...the Yankees don't [inhale excessively]". That one made me laugh and laugh, because I couldn't for the life of me figure out what was meant by the euphemism.

Whereas, both the original Pedro Martinez "daddy" quote, and the annoying chanting, perforce got full quotation in the newspapers (having gone out over national airwaves, maybe there was no point in censorship by then).

The best part is when swear words are integral to understanding what is going on (like, who said what, when, in an argument that leads to ejections/suspensions), and the poor columnists/commentators are not allowed to describe exactly what is what. Peter Gammons once explained a fight between a batter and an umpire by referring to "a twelve-letter expletive" that I am sure caused his readers to dive for the American Dictionary of Slang. (The word in question was motherfucker.)


Betsy HP - Jan 04, 2005 9:23:02 am PST #6793 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I associate "who's your daddy?" as a sexual boast, said during the moment -- "am I giving you a great time, or what?"

I have no idea if drag kings say "who's your daddy?".