You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

River ,'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Pix - Dec 23, 2004 7:01:10 pm PST #6710 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

Anything in particular by Robin Hobb?

There are three interlocking sets: The Farseer Trilogy, the Liveship Traders, and the Tawny Man series.

If this is the type of person who likes to start at the beginning of a series, Assassin's Apprentice is technically first.

However, I think that the Liveship series is the best, and it's a trilogy that stands alone from the other two, which feature the same main character.

The first book in that one is...oh damn. Hold on...(googles) Ship of Magic. The second is Mad Ship, and the third is Ship of Destiny.

Very good fantasy.


Typo Boy - Dec 24, 2004 2:02:02 pm PST #6711 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Tawney Man was my favorite of the triologies. But my tastes tend to vary from Buffista norm, so KristenTs suggestion is probably your best bet.


erikaj - Dec 25, 2004 7:55:06 am PST #6712 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

One of my gifts was Pelecanos' "The Sweet Forever" which I stayed up really late reading. I think I am in love right now, actually. If I write something half that good, I'll know I have something. I love his spin on the hard-boiled thing because it doesn't tempt me to suicide like Lehane.


Angus G - Dec 25, 2004 4:04:54 pm PST #6713 of 10002
Roguish Laird

I keep meaning to read Pelecanos. What's a good one to start with?


erikaj - Dec 25, 2004 4:34:59 pm PST #6714 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Most people tell me it is The Big Blowdown, which is the begiinning of the series about the Greeks. I am reading it right now, AIFG! He has two series going at once, I think, The Karras/Clay books and the Strange books(Derek Strange) I've read a few of both. The Greek books are more....nostalgic, The Stranges more modern.(Strange is really a "Who's on First ?" kind of name, isn't it? Makes a change from Stefanos though.) And I have to like any writer who says in the same interview: Q: What's the secret of your appeal in the UK? Pelecanos: My swarthy good looks?(followed by some more serious stuff about universal themes) Q: What are your thoughts about the writing life? Pelecanos: I get paid all right and my back doesn't hurt at the end of the day. And I have to say, Angus, feeling a little like Xander being asked for advice by Giles that you would want my opinion. I'm kind of chuffed and unworthy, both. Bonus is, he's got the grit like Lehane, but he is funny and less inclined to dismember people. Which I like. Lehane's good, too, but he has kind of a "kill every motherfucker in the room" approach to body counts that fluctuates from "My God, how disturbing!" to "blah, blah, another hollow chest cavity," because he goes there so much. I can't believe I posted that word in Literary...that's kind of horrible. I don't know how you feel about pop references in mysteries either...Pelecanos loves them. You probably aren't horrified by them, being a Buffista, but I never know.


Angus G - Dec 26, 2004 1:35:51 am PST #6715 of 10002
Roguish Laird

No, I love pop references in mysteries! Didn't Pelecanos also write a piece in Hec's new book, or something?

The only Lehane I've read was Shutter Island, which I thought was good although there were a couple of pretty glaring anachronisms, eg someone using the term "anger management" in the late 1940s (or whenever it was supposed to be)!

I got Alan Hollinghurst's The Line of Beauty for Christmas and I'm really enjoying it so far. I was slightly worried, it's a bit disconcerting to see an author I absolutely love win the Booker Prize (which I've always been snooty about)!


DavidS - Dec 26, 2004 7:09:41 am PST #6716 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Didn't Pelecanos also write a piece in Hec's new book, or something?

Indeed. He's an expert on 70s soul music and did a piece about Curtis Mayfield's Back to the World.

One of the characters in the Strange series is an ex-cop who works in a used record store.


Jim - Dec 26, 2004 8:04:52 am PST #6717 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

My only problem with Pelecanos is that every villain seems to be gay. Or at least a Schillingeresque manrapist. Which after a while starts to seem like a theme.


erikaj - Dec 26, 2004 8:30:16 am PST #6718 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

You know, I never noticed, but...now you mention it, a lot of them do look upon prison a bit more fondly than one might expect, Jim. Wow, Hec's and Pelecanos' stock both rose. Color me impressed. Yeah, Angus, wrod on that term thing. Surely, there was a fifties word he could have found. And it's probably easier when you're Lehane, as opposed to, say, me, Newbie McRookie, who doesn't even come up on Amazon or anything. No excuse.


WildDemon Cornelius - Dec 26, 2004 10:04:51 am PST #6719 of 10002
Take your fingers off it, don't you dare touch it, you know it don't belong to you, to you...

Interesting book gift I got: the Faber book of Movie Verse. Poems about movies from the turn of the century to the early 90s. Looks amazing but I haven't gotten a chance to look at it in any great detail. The only other book gifts that I got were school books, Virginia Woolf's Mrs. Dalloway and Christopher Isherwood's Berlin Stories.