Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Nutty - Nov 29, 2004 9:33:56 am PST #6451 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I am very glad to be ensconced in the demographic of people who always knew of Ayn Rand as a punchline. I don't know how I came to be in this demographic -- I expect I was raised here -- but I'm happy to stay.


Vonnie K - Nov 29, 2004 9:43:34 am PST #6452 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I suspect a large part of my interest in the book had to do with the fact that my then extraordinarily vanilla self was somewhat titillated by the S/M aspect of the main relationship, wrapped in all that pseudo-philosophical crap.


P.M. Marc - Nov 29, 2004 10:33:28 am PST #6453 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Then there are times when the opposite is true, like how when you were 19, you thought The Fountainhead was some profound and daring shit, and now you wish you had a time machine so that you could go back and wack your 19-year-old self with a frying pan on the noggin until the then-you came to senses.

See, I think it's a good stage to go through. A learning experience, if you will, to keep you from thinking those ideas are good ones when you hit actual adulthood.


Betsy HP - Nov 29, 2004 10:34:06 am PST #6454 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Yeah, but what about the unfortunates who cling to this stuff forever?


P.M. Marc - Nov 29, 2004 10:37:49 am PST #6455 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, but what about the unfortunates who cling to this stuff forever?

You mean like Alan Greenspan? (Though I'm not sure how much of it he still holds to, he was part of Rand's inner circle.)


Daisy Jane - Nov 29, 2004 10:40:35 am PST #6456 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I have pretty much Plei's attitude toward Rand. Though I was more a worshipper of Dagny than Dominique.


P.M. Marc - Nov 29, 2004 10:44:06 am PST #6457 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I have pretty much Plei's attitude toward Rand. Though I was more a worshipper of Dagny than Dominique.

Oh, totally.

I still find Rand herself fascinating, because she was just such a fucked-up thing.


Betsy HP - Nov 29, 2004 10:45:51 am PST #6458 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Yes. I keep meaning to read a bio. Apparently her expectations of her devotees were extreme and capricious.


Daisy Jane - Nov 29, 2004 10:59:46 am PST #6459 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

What was the name of the couple that she totally fucked up too? Brendan or something or other?


Frankenbuddha - Nov 30, 2004 3:21:14 am PST #6460 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Maybe the reasoning behing filming Apt Pupil was that the first two movies were so good.

That was the second attempt to film Apt Pupil, btw. The first attempt got about 3/4 done (it was to star Nicol Williamson and either Fred Savage or Ricky Schroeder) and the financing ran out. I think it was a first time director/low budget deal that just couldn't quite get finished, but it's been a while since I read the article about it (in a CFQ issue about Stephen King).