Nobody can tell Marmaduke what to do. That's my kind of dog.

Trick ,'First Date'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Ginger - Nov 22, 2004 7:05:30 am PST #6397 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I just don't see Cordelia as a Mary Sue. For one thing, she's clearly not beautiful. There are too many scenes in which someone said, "So that's Aral's Betan," clearly not understanding the attraction. Also, I tend to think of Mary Sues as characters who always do everything right. Most of Cordelia's decisions about Miles can be reasonably seen as either heroic or insane.

When I think of Mary Sues, the two characters who come to mind are both male. There's the hero of Jerry Ahern's Survivalist books, who, in the first book, safely lands the commercial aircraft he's on when the pilot is disabled. I think the ability to land the plane is a clear Mary Sue attribute. There's also E.C. Tubb's Dumarest series, in which, in every book, there's a scene in which Dumarest does something like catch a knife in midair and someone says, "Fast. I've never seen a man so fast." It could be that books like that have set my Mary-Sue Meter pretty high.

Claudia Black is the only actress in the current crop who seems at all Cordelia-like to me. Still, Miles is the real problem. There just aren't that many hyperactive dwarfs who are actors.


§ ita § - Nov 22, 2004 7:08:42 am PST #6398 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There just aren't that many hyperactive dwarfs who are actors.

Or, from another POV, too many actors are too short, so you lose the distinction.


Vonnie K - Nov 22, 2004 7:20:46 am PST #6399 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I keep thinking one of the hobbits would do well as Miles, forgetting their perceived shortitude was from forced perspective shots. Both Dom Monaghan and Billy Boyd are apparently around 5'7", making them way too tall for Miles. I'm trying to remember if there is anyone around Danny Strong's height (5'2") who could fit, but coming up entirely blank.

I propose Peter Stormare as Bothari.


Jessica - Nov 22, 2004 7:23:31 am PST #6400 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think using CGI/forced perspective would make Miles infinitely easier to cast.


JohnSweden - Nov 22, 2004 7:24:42 am PST #6401 of 10002
I can't even.

I think using CGI/forced perspective would make Miles infinitely easier to cast.

Was just about to post that. A short actor + cheating = Miles.


§ ita § - Nov 22, 2004 7:27:10 am PST #6402 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Seth Green is a wee man. So is David Faustino.

Other heights.


Ginger - Nov 22, 2004 7:56:32 am PST #6403 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I suppose in other contexts people like Seth Green, Michael J. Fox and Danny DiVito could be considered hyperactive dwarfs.

(OT comment on the height list: My sister went to high school with Little Jimmie Dickens' daughter. She's 6 feet tall.)


Consuela - Nov 22, 2004 1:00:22 pm PST #6404 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I knew exactly who needed to be Bothari, and it's gone. Peter Postelwaite, maybe?

Actually, I was just thinking about Liam Neeson. He looms very well, and he's got the profile and the chops to make Bothari both scary and sympathetic.


Jesse - Nov 22, 2004 3:28:23 pm PST #6405 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So! I just happened to start Brothers in Arms, and there is lots of relevant information to current conversation. It's the one with Earth, and they describe London as 'nearly two millennia' old, so what does that make the time-frame, o people who know how old London is now? Also, Ivan is described as in great shape (looks great in clothes), with affable, even features and wavy dark hair. So now I want him to be Jude Law.


Anne W. - Nov 22, 2004 3:37:59 pm PST #6406 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Clearly I need to read these books. Any advice on what order in which they should be read.