You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


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Nutty - Sep 21, 2004 1:18:47 pm PDT #5960 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

their free hand with their (over)writing doesn't seem to reduce readability to the point of costing them their readers.

I don't know, though. I bet the books are becoming less profitable. What with enormous marketing budgets, and the authors being able to demand huge advances and high percentages of each sale, and the high cost of long, long books. It's the kind of conundrum that a lot of businesses that demand high profits get into -- you need a huge marketing budget to help the book make its numbers, but the larger the marketing budget, the more expensive the book has to be to make a suitable profit per book sold. The more expensive a book is, the harder it is to sell, so the marketing budget keeps getting larger.

(Whereas, most books have a marketing budget of probably ZERO, so if they sell at all, they've made back the investment in paper and copyediting. It always alarms me a little when I realize how much of a book's marketing is the author marketing himself, by himself, with no huge publicity machine to back him up.)

There's also that practical point, which J. K. Rowling has reached, where it is almost impossible to bind the book because it is so many pages. Either someone will have to beat her with a stick to make her edit the next volume down, or else it will have to come out in an extremely large trim size, because Vol. 4 (to say nothing of Vol. 5) was a really problematic book as a physical object.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 21, 2004 1:20:52 pm PDT #5961 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Harry Potter and the Quest for the Perfect Binding


Betsy HP - Sep 21, 2004 1:22:51 pm PDT #5962 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Either someone will have to beat her with a stick to make her edit the next volume down,

She says she intends it to be much shorter.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2004 1:35:11 pm PDT #5963 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I bet the books are becoming less profitable.

Maybe she's trying to save money on the editor's salary.


Betsy HP - Sep 21, 2004 2:02:19 pm PDT #5964 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Well, I don't dispute the luxury of fuck-you money. King and Rice can both write exactly the books they always dreamed of writing.

It's Rice's insistence that Editing Is Bad For Her Art that makes me ill.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 22, 2004 5:37:17 am PDT #5965 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's Rice's insistence that Editing Is Bad For Her Art that makes me ill.

Which is something I've never heard King espouse (if you read ON WRITING, he pretty much says just the opposite, in fact). That he ISN'T being edited vigorously is a whole other issue.


Dana - Sep 22, 2004 5:40:18 am PDT #5966 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Short interview with Jennifer Crusie on Powells.com.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 22, 2004 8:22:25 am PDT #5967 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

King gets snippy about the critics saying his books are too long (especially in the intro of his short story collection Nightmares and Dreamscapes), but his ire seems to be reserved for the critics rather than the editorial process itself.


Wolfram - Sep 22, 2004 8:47:25 am PDT #5968 of 10002
Visilurking

Well I'm picking up my library held copy of King's The Dark Tower (Book 7) today. I'm a bit chagrined that when I heard he was in that terrible accident, the first thing I worried about was that he'd never finish the series.


Katerina Bee - Sep 22, 2004 10:21:52 am PDT #5969 of 10002
Herding cats for fun

Whaaa? Dark Tower #7 is available now? Really??? Oh, I'll have to run out and get that one stat. I was immeasurably relieved that the accident didn't prevent King from finishing his big ole opus, which I have enjoyed quite a bit. Big Steve's prose might well benefit from some editorial pruning, but at least he's not a snot about his Great Talent a la Anne Rice. When he's writing about himself I find him to be refreshingly like someone I'd want to have a beer with.