Mal: Go on. Get in there. Give your brother a thrashing for messing up your plan. River: He takes so much looking after.

'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Daisy Jane - Sep 21, 2004 9:03:29 am PDT #5949 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

That's it!


askye - Sep 21, 2004 9:03:39 am PDT #5950 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

At one point Anne Rice had an essay like this on her website, which was linked to on Fandom Wank and a few places on Livejournal. I went checking and the current comments of Rice's have made it on Fandom Wank again.

This time she's being compared to fanfic writers on ego trips "U don't understand my vision!!1!1!"


Nutty - Sep 21, 2004 9:05:47 am PDT #5951 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The real question is, will -izzle be anything more than a goof? I suspect not. People use "quiz" without irony all the time, but when people say -izzle, they're referencing Snoop or his attitude or the underlying joke of sound-insertion.

The best editor story I ever heard came from Creepy Bob Cormier, who was the gentlest white-haired old man, writing the freakiest doomful teen-angst novels, ever in existence. He said once he spent 45 minutes on the phone with his editor in New York (he lived in Fitchburg) arguing back and forth over the word "however" in the middle of a paragraph. She felt strongly (and eventually convinced him) that it should be "but" instead, because it was appropriate to the narrative voice, and because it was a better rhythm within the paragraph.

He was telling the story to show that his editor was some kind of lovable dedicated maniac, spending 45 minutes on a single word, but the fact is, she did convince him in the end, and he was grateful. (He's also the sort of novelist who wrote for 40 years, and had an editor the whole time. I mean, he was a newsman during the day, so maybe he was just comfortable with editors. Yes, I know news editors are totally different from book editors.)


Jessica - Sep 21, 2004 9:07:05 am PDT #5952 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

After the publication of the The Queen of the Damned, I requested of my editor that she not give me anymore comments.

Note to Anne: Declarations of how flawless your unedited writing is would be so much more convincing without the blatant misuse of "anymore" right there in the first sentence.


JohnSweden - Sep 21, 2004 9:07:16 am PDT #5953 of 10002
I can't even.

This time she's being compared to fanfic writers on ego trips "U don't understand my vision!!1!1!"

That's fantastic.

Signed, Pro-editing, especially for mega-seller types like Rice, King, etc.


Nutty - Sep 21, 2004 9:07:37 am PDT #5954 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I felt that I could not bring to perfection what I saw unless I did it alone. In othe words, what I had to offer had to be offered in isolation.

The cosmic justice in all this? Typo in the above.


Daisy Jane - Sep 21, 2004 9:09:46 am PDT #5955 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

"U don't understand my vision!!1!1!"

Hee!

No sweetie, I don't- perhaps we should discuss what a writer/author does, and why that's more your problem than mine.


juliana - Sep 21, 2004 9:14:29 am PDT #5956 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

William Safire on how the Grey Lady finally embraced the izzle.

My favorite quote from the story:

The case, Mr. Justice Lewison (seems they don't allow judges to have first names in England) told the BBC, "led to the faintly surreal experience of three gentlemen in horsehair wigs examining the meaning of such phrases as ... shizzle my nizzle." A truly remarkable bit of jurisprudence.


Wolfram - Sep 21, 2004 9:28:50 am PDT #5957 of 10002
Visilurking

A truly remarkable bit of jurisprudence.

Fo shizzle.

Also, Buffista Rule #48 is one of the many reasons I keep coming back to this oddly-endearing website.


Jesse - Sep 21, 2004 10:47:21 am PDT #5958 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I know this isn't the point at all (point = Anne Rice would benefit from editing, even if she disagrees), but music is a time-lapse collaboration. I've had conductors explicitly go against directions in the music -- making things slower, or louder, or whatever, than the composer intended. So, no one might have said it to Copeland, but people are free to do it anyway.