A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Sep 12, 2004 12:51:54 pm PDT #5800 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Respectfully disagrees and shakes head, waving copy of 'Written on the Body'. Runs away.

shakes fist at disagreeful Lilty "You better run, missy!"


Lilty Cash - Sep 12, 2004 3:04:15 pm PDT #5801 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Resigns to read both again, this time back to back, but doubts view will change. Sticks out tongue.


Kate P. - Sep 12, 2004 4:05:48 pm PDT #5802 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I'm siding with David, though I love both books.

Betsy, I got nothing, sorry.


Alicia K - Sep 12, 2004 5:33:44 pm PDT #5803 of 10002
Uncertainty could be our guiding light.

I finally read Bet Me by Jennifer Crusie (ah, beloved paperback!) and absolutely loved it, even though at one point, with only two pages in between, she describes two females (Bink and Cynthie) through Min's eyes as having big, gray eyes and heart-shaped faces. That bugged me.

Now I'm reading Candyfreak and have laughed out loud many times, even though I'm not even to page 50 yet.

Oh, but after I typed the Crusie bit, I realized it comes out later that Cal was in love with Bink, so s it would make sense that a woman he hooked up with later would look like her.

So never mind, maybe.


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2004 5:36:19 pm PDT #5804 of 10002
Our wings are not tired

I'm currently about half way through Under the Banner of Heaven, which is a disturbing book, and so far quite an excellent one.


Hil R. - Sep 12, 2004 5:38:24 pm PDT #5805 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I read Under the Banner of Heaven a few months ago. I thought it was fascinating, and disturbing. There were a few parts where I thought he got kind of unclear with his language -- not making it clear exactly who did what, when it was kind of important -- but other than that, I also thought it was excellent.


Kate P. - Sep 12, 2004 5:40:17 pm PDT #5806 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Hey Alicia, I had a question for you over in the music thread...


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2004 5:41:53 pm PDT #5807 of 10002
Our wings are not tired

Yeah, it does take some careful reading in a few parts, but he's also covering well over 100 years of time and multiple overlapping and interrelated events. I've read a fair amount about Mormonism in the past so I knew about a lot of the stuff he's writing about but quite a bit of the information about Mormon Fundamentalists is new to me.


Hil R. - Sep 12, 2004 5:47:23 pm PDT #5808 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah. It was mostly the part surrounding the Mountain Meadows Massacre where there were a few things like "the Mormons decided to ..." and he doesn't say whether he means the Mormon Church dedided to or the bunch of Mormons who happened to be right there decided to. I don't remember the exact sentence right now, but there was one sentence in particular where I read the paragraph at least three times and still couldn't figure out which he meant.

I know some people who feel that that book is really prejudiced against the Mormon church, and while I don't think so, I think that some of those ambiguous sentences could contribute to that reading of it.


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2004 5:56:48 pm PDT #5809 of 10002
Our wings are not tired

I can see how it can easily be read as prejudiced. It really points out quite a bit about the Mormon church and church history that isn't all that pleasant.