Coincidentally I started Krakatoa on the bus this morning. He is quite the digresser, isn't he! It's a vast change in pace from Seabiscuit, which raced along. This is a meander.
Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.
Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'
We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
flea - Aug 02, 2004 5:03:13 am PDT #5476 of 10002
information libertarian
libkitty - Aug 02, 2004 7:10:54 am PDT #5477 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
This may be a stretch, but what about Klinger in MASH? He isn't very good at his job, he's eccentric, he doesn't fit in, he's less educated than the people around him, and the "good" people accept him as he is.
Aside from the funny but disconcerting picture this brings up, I think this might fit with early Klinger. Later in the series, Klinger developed into a more three-dimensional character. He became smart, effective, and, of course, wore a uniform.
Volans - Aug 02, 2004 3:53:08 pm PDT #5478 of 10002
move out and draw fire
He is quite the digresser, isn't he!
It's like reading an episode of Connections, except we don't always end up back in the same place.
§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 7:13:15 pm PDT #5479 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Can someone with a better Brust-memory remind me -- what is the cycle of the Teckla supposed to be like?
Betsy HP - Aug 02, 2004 7:26:40 pm PDT #5480 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
Poor, nasty, brutish, and short?
§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 7:27:50 pm PDT #5481 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Are Teckla nasty and brutish? They seem meek and self-effacing. And the cycles are of various lengths? It's been so long since I read the more modern ones. I forget they mythology.
JoeCrow - Aug 02, 2004 8:19:12 pm PDT #5482 of 10002
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson
As I recall, it usually starts out as some sort of peasant commonwealth created by a revolt against the despotic Orca, and ends up getting bought out by the Jhegaala. Yes, the individual cycles do vary, but there are minimum and maximum lengths. Not sure what they are, but I think the shortest length is 289 years and the longest is 4913 years. Multiples of 17 and all that.
JoeCrow - Aug 02, 2004 8:20:11 pm PDT #5483 of 10002
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson
I get the impression that Teckla reigns are on the short side.
§ ita § - Aug 02, 2004 8:21:43 pm PDT #5484 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, so the transitions are determined by the nature of the houses too. So much I have forgotten. I'm reading Lord Of Castle Black right now, and it seems a little naïve of Kana to think he can force the cycle to turn by having a Phoenix say "tag! you're it!" Does that represent a lack of knowledge on his part, on the society's part on how they turn?
JoeCrow - Aug 02, 2004 10:21:19 pm PDT #5485 of 10002
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson
I wouldn't be surprised. Actually, though, I'm not sure how much most Draegareans know about how the cycle actually operates. Hell, the gods don't seem real clear on it, themselves.