Buffy. When I saw you stop the world from, you know, ending, I just assumed that was a big week for you. Turns out I suddenly find myself needing to know the plural of 'apocalypse.'

Riley ,'Potential'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Polgara - Jan 14, 2004 3:10:14 pm PST #540 of 10002
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Deb, what Betsy said. At least give the first one a try, because she did (used to) have a snappy fast-paced style of storytelling. I think it started going bad in book seven, but that could just be me.


beth b - Jan 14, 2004 3:14:08 pm PST #541 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I will check - I am going tioo get rid of all her books - I don't reread them -- and I'll see if I have the first few... if you want them Deb , they are yours.


deborah grabien - Jan 14, 2004 3:21:50 pm PST #542 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And Polgara and Betsy have talked me into it. beth, thankee kindly, ma'am, I would love to check it/them out.

Polgara, there's something about the phrase "they started going bad in book seven" that brings a weird sort of joy to my "just embarked on first series of career" writerly heart. Hoping my Buffista beta readers will kick my ass hard if/when I show signs of going bad.


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2004 3:56:44 pm PST #543 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Narcissus in Chains is where I started really getting irritated with the LKH books.

Also, no chains.


Polgara - Jan 14, 2004 6:56:10 pm PST #544 of 10002
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Hoping my Buffista beta readers will kick my ass hard if/when I show signs of going bad.

Be nice to them! I'm thinking Hamilton must've pissed off her editors pretty bad for them to be allowing such drivel get published. ;-) But really, the first six books were great, the seventh was pretty good, and it just went downhill from there until Narcissus in Chains just made me give up on her hardcovers forevermore.


deborah grabien - Jan 14, 2004 8:17:45 pm PST #545 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

See, the thing I've been finding more and more with series fiction - or, to be fair, not finding so much as the penny dropping - is that series writers seem to start off with the Big! Grab-em! Book! and then do an Eddie Izzard: slowly collapse in on themselves like a flan in a cupboard.

I mean, I loved Martha Grimes when she first started out. By book four, I was going huh, wait, no, what's she doing, and by book seven she'd taken a hard turn down a weird road. She lost me, alas. And Charlotte McLeod did the same thing for a bit with the Sarah Kelling/Max Bittersohn series, set in Boston - I never go back to the more recent ones, but I cherish the first books.

I've been trying to do just the opposite with the MM&G series; I started off light in "Weaver" and the ghosts and crimes get more intense as the books go along. But I don't want to to screw it up.


beth b - Jan 14, 2004 9:20:32 pm PST #546 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think a lot of the series writers don't understand two concepts - the characters need to grow/change and when they grow and change the relationship to the beginning character should be seeable. . I really liked the character in LKH' s series. - not identifiy, but she rang True. But It seemed to that she had to cross a line in evrybook. There don't seem to be anymore lines, so the books are boreing. I think Jill Churchill is an esample of one series done right. Her mysterries are light ,fun, and kinda like potato chips. You know they aren't doing you any good, but every now and again- they taste really good. Her sleuth - Jane Jaffery doesn't change much, but nor does she do anything wildly out of charactor or go around jumping across the grand canyon so that the character in the first book is so different from the last book. The changes in her are pretty much what you would expect of a widowed woman with three children ( one is in college now) - that gets invovled in a number of domestic mysteries. she has grown more confident and somewhat more ambitious, but she is still worried about what is going to be for dinner. VI Washorski - at the beginning I loved her fiestiness and her independence. The last two I read I was very pissed off at her , because after 10 other times learning she needed to be more honest and more careful with her friends - she forgot .

Really, I have no opinion on this subject.


deborah grabien - Jan 14, 2004 9:23:50 pm PST #547 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Really, I have no opinion on this subject.

(loving beth)


Megan E. - Jan 15, 2004 2:53:23 am PST #548 of 10002

msbelle, I had trouble with Middlesex too but I forced myself to finish it because I felt like I had invested so much time and effort into it, so I wanted to know how it all turned out. But it wasn't the enjoyable, engaging read I expected.


Volans - Jan 15, 2004 3:16:07 am PST #549 of 10002
move out and draw fire

OK, I got a stack of Bujold books yesterday. I'd started on Mirror Dance but I'm doing the amazing thing of putting it down and trying to go back and read in order. I'm having to skip a bit anyway, since my husband took Borders with him to work, bitching constantly about how moronic and juvenile the books are.

Dude needs to get his T. Rex under control.

I liked the first Anita Blake book, but it didn't take me 7 books to give up. More like 4 or 5, and I'd already bought them all and loaded them on my PDA for a long plane flight. At least on a PDA no one can see what you are reading - I did feel like washing my hands, my PDA, and maybe wiping its memory a few times.

Of course, I gave up on Anne Rice 20 pages in to The Vampire Lestat. I've taken a running jump at some of her other books, including the Sleeping Beauty ones, but I just can make myself read them.

Anne Rice gossip: a friend of mine used to teach with her, and said that her given name at birth was George. WTF?