We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
The thing is, in PoA, there is no previous timeline. It always happened exactly as they make it happen (As Harry says, "I knew I could do it because I'd already done it"). So there doesn't need to be a previous timeline, so long as Ron goes back and becomes Dumbledore.
As for the why that far, my guess would be to make sure that Dumbledore was in place/respected/whatever before Tom Riddle went to school, so that the relationship between the two of them would be in place ("Only wizard he ever feared" and all that).
That doesn't seem to be how time works in the Rowling universe, though. Harry and Hermione have to avoid themselves when they use the Time Turner.
But the time travel adventure there is a perfect example of what I mean: the Patronus saves Harry because Harry always went back in time to do it. There was no alteration in the timeline; the timeline
existed
in an "altered" state.
Um, right. Okay. I think we agree.
Actually, I'm hoping Ron goes bad. He's mad to make money, which leaves him open.
Hmmm. I'm willing to take the point about the previous timeline/inevitability, which may also answer my other questions -- he goes back to 18whatever because he's always gone back to 18whatever -- but it still seems pretty strange to me.
Nutty, thanks for your point about the growing realism as the characters age and the increasing disconnect as the adult characters remain tropes. As I get further into the series, this has been bugging me more and more, although I must admit that it did annoy me a bit from the beginning. I hadn't really figured out what it was that was bothersome, though. You put it perfectly, which is such a relief!
If Snape was a big nerd, wouldn't Hermione be the closest to him now
Snape wasn't the cool kind of nerd like Hermione. He wasn't quite smart enough, plus, although I don't remember from the books, it seems like he must have had bad hair. In fact, I don't see the child Snape so much as a nerd as a geek. But I only read each book once, not really being a Harry Potter fanatic (I save my fanatacism for Firefly) and it's probably six months since I read the most recent one, so I could be all wet on this one.
This is what is stopping me from stepping into the burgeoning HP fandom -- I just can't see doing all the reading it would take to know the canon. I read each of the books once, and I skimmed LARGE sections of the last one. I keep trying to reread and getting bored and wandering off.
Bring back Buffy when it and I were young.
Bring back Buffy when it and I were young
Oh, I dreamed this last night. I was watching an episode I hadn't seen, from S2 or so, with a thin Xander and dorky Willow and perky Buffy and it was so nice to have my friends back.
Which I guess is pathetic, but whatever.
I am having no opinion on any upcoming reveals in the HPverse, as I know that whatever I think would be wonderful (Snape/Lily; Petunia being a Squib; Draco being three-dimensional) won't happen. I'm still a bit bitter (okay, a lot bitter) over the last book and the increasing trend towards nothingness.
This is what is stopping me from stepping into the burgeoning HP fandom -- I just can't see doing all the reading it would take to know the canon.
Oh, but that's the marvelous thing about it--the writers have done the research for you! I like the characters so much more in fanfic than in the books. I think a large part of the reason that OotP was such a disappointment to me was that I'd been reading a lot of fic in the months leading up to its release, and the book just couldn't measure up. I mean, I've read and enjoyed the books, but I certainly don't have the exhaustive knowledge of canon that others do, and I don't think it's necessary for an appreciation of the fic.
Rowling's good at broad strokes, but at this point, I fear her characters have grown beyond her ability to write them well. (She's never been able to believeably write the adults as three-dimensional characters, but when the kids were too young to relate to them as peers, it didn't matter so much.)