Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jess M. - Jul 20, 2004 10:48:56 am PDT #5230 of 10002
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

Yeah, I can't read any of those.


lisah - Jul 20, 2004 11:05:57 am PDT #5231 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

I thought if my brother and I spent that kind of time locked up together, only one of us would come out.

Heh! Me too!


Java cat - Jul 20, 2004 2:31:18 pm PDT #5232 of 10002
Not javachik

Ew. Someone told me the FitA books were horror, which, except for consuming all the Alfred Hitchcock short story anthologies that were published and some Stephen King novels, I avoid. So I did and I'm glad. I didn't know it was about incest until now. Ick.

I thought if my brother and I spent that kind of time locked up together, only one of us would come out.

Me, too. Him.


Aims - Jul 20, 2004 2:36:43 pm PDT #5233 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

But in Heaven she didn't do anything with her brother!

She slept with her uncle though.

Grandfather tried to rape her.

Yeah, I ain't helping.


erikaj - Jul 20, 2004 2:48:06 pm PDT #5234 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

In my case, Java, either way, bonus. We were at the height of sibling aggression. Even now, we'd better not get locked up together.


Java cat - Jul 20, 2004 3:16:58 pm PDT #5235 of 10002
Not javachik

§ ita § - Jul 20, 2004 3:23:40 pm PDT #5236 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My teenaged porn, aside from the actual porn (wow, that Candy was sure one dumb broad), was sci-fi. There was one series that had these lizard men with bipartite penises. Embarassingly, my parents still have my copy of ... whatever that was. And of course, Jondalar. Mmm, good.


Lyra Jane - Jul 20, 2004 3:25:32 pm PDT #5237 of 10002
Up with the sun

Heaven is the one who grows up backwoods hillbilly poor, has a crush on her (alleged) half-brother, a sexual relationship with her foster father, then ... help me. I remember she moves in with her birth mother's family and sleeps with someone there, but I don't remember whether it's her step-grandfather or what.

And doesn't she, like Dawn, ultimately marry a boy she was raised as a sister to? Or am I making that up?

I never connected the incest in V.C. Andrews to my actual personal brother, probably because he was about 11 when I was reading them and barely registered in my self-involved teenage mind. And also because ewwwww.


brenda m - Jul 20, 2004 6:18:47 pm PDT #5238 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Seconding the ewwww but otherwise, I did think there was some interesting potential in the first one...but the others, yeah, not so much.

There was one series that had these lizard men with bipartite penises

I think I read that Star Trek fic...oh, wait, isn't that what you meant?

Dawn married who?


Lyra Jane - Jul 21, 2004 4:37:55 am PDT #5239 of 10002
Up with the sun

Not Dawn Summers. Dawn ?Coulter? of the V.C. Andrews series. My memory might be playing tricks on me, but I thought she married Jimmy, who she thought was her brother until she was 15.