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We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Amy - Jul 10, 2004 11:48:25 am PDT #4916 of 10002
Because books.

With regard to the Times article, and the discussion following, I thought I'd mention that our school district has instituted a mandatory summer reading program for ninth and tenth graders. To quote from the article in our local paper:

"'This is not an optional program,'" said district superintendent... "the summer reading program...will be a prerequisite for a diploma.

A multi-paragraph personal reaction paper must be completed for each work, which includes the likes of Julius Caesar, The Crucible, and Huckleberry Finn. Each student must read at least one or more works from the required list, and one or more works from the supplemental list.

'The overall rigor of this program is very impressive," the superintendent said, 'but not beyond any of our students.'"

It goes on to say that guided teacher instruction will be available during evening seminars at the high school library, and the local Barnes and Noble will provide "support" groups.

Is this a good idea? Maybe. I'm halfway convinced that kids should go to school year round, with longish breaks between quarters, anyway, and I've always made sure that my oldest son is reading in the summer. (This summer he's doing some math, too, due to his grades.) But...one or more books from two lists? Obviously, the requirement for the summer is two books, total, with kids who want to read more encouraged to do so. But how many will stick with just the two? (Which I know is better than nothing for some kids who wouldn't have picked up a book otherwise all summer.) And...support groups? As if summer reading were a new and dangerous disease? "I am Jack's overtaxed brain..."

This is all colored by the fact that I'm not wild about our district on a lot of levels, so maybe I'm being overly critical, but this also just seems sad to me. No one had to require me to read over the summer, or ever.

I joined a book group when we first moved to this town, and didn't stay long. My impression was there were two or three of us who read the books and were eager to discuss them, five or six who read the books without any joy or reflection (because if you're in a book club, you must the read the book, period), and the rest either never read or never finished the books and seemed to join solely for the dinner and the husband-less, kid-less night out. I can't tell you how many people I know who just never ever pick up a book, and always look at me kind of funny when I talk about reading. Yet, our Barnes and Noble is always packed. Either everyone's just flipping pages in the cafe to pass an hour, or some people are reading.


erikaj - Jul 10, 2004 2:43:00 pm PDT #4917 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Ok, reading people...I just got an assload of mysteries because I'm trying to learn how they work, right? The hardboiled kind...Mosley, Paretsky, Grafton, Lehane. Pretty respectable stuff and still I felt like saying "I read real books, too." Is this creative writing class rearing its genre-bias again? ETA: I'm already jealous of Dennis Lehane. Not the crappy childhood, but the ferocious little style. I like it.


Betsy HP - Jul 10, 2004 5:00:54 pm PDT #4918 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Some mysteries are officially Real Books now. It's complicated. Lehane may even qualify.


erikaj - Jul 10, 2004 5:02:51 pm PDT #4919 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

And me without my handbook, Betsy.


Betsy HP - Jul 10, 2004 5:05:48 pm PDT #4920 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Hey, I wasn't issued one, either.

My rule of thumb is that it takes 50 years before you know if it's a real book. Before that, it's on probation. And books can be promoted or demoted retroactively.


Jesse - Jul 10, 2004 5:22:12 pm PDT #4921 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm sure you're kidding, Betsy, but every book is a real book! I remember a whole discussion when we were opening this thread about if we could call it "literary" if we were mostly going to be talking about genre books and light reading. We said yes.


erikaj - Jul 10, 2004 5:23:24 pm PDT #4922 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

yeah, we're just being smart.


Jesse - Jul 10, 2004 5:25:23 pm PDT #4923 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I will defend mysteries as a genre to the death, as they make up 90% of what I read, and many are actually, you know, good books. I admit some are good reads but not good books per se, but still!


Betsy HP - Jul 10, 2004 5:52:36 pm PDT #4924 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Jesse, I completely and passionately believe that every book is a real book. I was riffing on Erika.

The point being, there are books you can tell your English professor you read without flinching. Those are the Real Books, which is different from being real books.


msbelle - Jul 10, 2004 6:12:31 pm PDT #4925 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I was very restrained today at the Strand and only bought 3 books from my TBR list, but I also treated myself to a 1959 Modern Library of Out of Africa with a fabulous dustjacket.

I am still plugging away at The Night Inspector. Really lovely language, I think people would like it. Also, Melville is a character in it, which is interesting with the recent discussion in this thread. Makes me think I should finally getting around to reading him, but not right now.