Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Polter-Cow - Jul 07, 2004 5:58:40 pm PDT #4738 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Kinda like what Big Fat Fantasy would be like if the seminal fantasy text was Gormenghast

Yeah, the Amazon blurb mentioned that too. I haven't read it.


Micole - Jul 07, 2004 6:00:20 pm PDT #4739 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Steampunk is ... huh, easy to point to, hard to describe. SF, fantasy, or alternate history where technology is more accelerated than it was in history; there's some cyberpunk cross-over, but they're not necessarily related. Contradicting that, one of the most famous steampunk work is The Difference Engine by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling, cyberpunk's most famous writer and most dedicated propagandist respectively, which is set in a 19th-century Britain undergoing an accelerated Industrial Revolution because Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace were able to come up with workable computers and computer languages. It's got many historical personages and characters from period novels wandering through.

Other significant works of steampunk are K.W. Jeter's Infernal Devices, most of Tim Powers' early work (esp. The Anubis Gates), some of James Blaylock's early work, and possibly Michael Swanwick's The Iron Dragon's Daughter, depending on how flexible you are in your definitions.

I hadn't heard Mieville's books put in quite that subgenre, but I can see the similiarities. Well, from what I've heard -- I've only read his first novel, King Rat, which is pretty much a straightforward urban horror/fantasy, if an unusually gritty one.


Maysa - Jul 07, 2004 6:00:48 pm PDT #4740 of 10002

I like Danny the Champion of the World best of all of Dahl, I think, because it is the gentlest of his stories.

I always hope that if I ever have kids, I'll be like Danny's dad.

Has anyone here read any BALzac? (Sorry, I can't think his name without hearing The Music Man in my head.) I have an urge to read some of his stuff, but I have no idea which books are considered his best, or what the best translations are.


Polter-Cow - Jul 07, 2004 6:04:34 pm PDT #4741 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Has anyone here read any BALzac?

Didn't he write that...one...thing?

*Googles*

Uh, okay, I don't know what he wrote that's famous either, even though his name sounds familiar.


Consuela - Jul 07, 2004 6:16:08 pm PDT #4742 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Has anyone here read any BALzac?

Balzac wrote dozens of novels. I've read Zola, which was good. Lots of family and social conflict. Poor father whose daughters married well think he embarrasses them, so when he comes to visit they hide him away and make him come in through the back door, that sort of thing.


Hil R. - Jul 07, 2004 7:27:22 pm PDT #4743 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The Great Brain books screwed me up, because they were the first place I saw the word "gentiles," so I thought non-Mormon was the general meaning. Oops.

That element of those books totally confused me. Even though my best friend was Mormon, I'd never heard it used in that sense before.

My favorite Roald Dahl was Matilda. This probably surprises exactly nobody. As for Judy Blume's kids books, I loved both Sally J. Friedman and Sheila.

I was actually just talking with a friend today about about A Little Princess. She loves the movie (the new one, not the Shirley Temple one) but hadn't known it had been a book. I liked Secret Garden better than Little Princess -- more magical elements, and the creepiness of the moors was just cool, and I could relate a lot more to Mary than to Sara. Sara always seemed just a little bit too goody-goody to me.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2004 7:29:46 pm PDT #4744 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I used to repeatedly borrow the LP of Secret Garden from the Swiss Cottage library.

I have no idea why I preferred hearing over reading that book more than any other.


Connie Neil - Jul 07, 2004 7:35:49 pm PDT #4745 of 10002
brillig

That element of those books totally confused me. Even though my best friend was Mormon, I'd never heard it used in that sense before.

The church, I think, has been trying to downplay the use of the word "gentile" for non-LDS. It's still the term used in many standard church works, but you get a lot of "Oh, no, that's just an old usage, sorry for the confusion" these days when you bring it up.

When were The Great Brain books written?


Hil R. - Jul 07, 2004 7:41:44 pm PDT #4746 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

When were The Great Brain books written?

Sometime in the fifties or sixties, I think, but they take place much earlier, maybe 1910 or so.


Connie Neil - Jul 07, 2004 7:48:53 pm PDT #4747 of 10002
brillig

I'll have to check into those, find out who wrote them, if they're from Utah and such. It seems an unlikely milieu to appeal to the wider world at that time.