It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

River ,'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Katerina Bee - Jul 07, 2004 12:41:30 pm PDT #4726 of 10002
Herding cats for fun

I loved the illustrations in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Grandpa Joe and all the other grandparents looked so kindly. I remember weeping bitter tears over poor James, living up on the hill with his horrid aunts and missing his parents and their vacations at the beach so terribly. Today I can have a conversation with my nephew about how just reading the words "Vermicious Knids" enough times can really crack you up.


DavidS - Jul 07, 2004 2:39:57 pm PDT #4727 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

MM, I loved The Great Brain books when I was growing up. And yes, Emmett does have a similar Money Loving Heart, though he hasn't proven to be quite so conniving. I'll introduce him to that series for sure.

I was not aware that it was a movie. I'd think that'd be pretty scary. Maybe I am forgetting what I liked as a child. I am thinking this would be for an early elementary age 6-8, right?

It's a bit scary because Anjelica Huston doesn't hold anything back in her wickedness. Emmett relished the book, but found the movie scarier. (Though not too scary in his case, since he'd already seen all the Harry Potters and LoTR movies in theaters.)

Did you read Superfudge first?

I think we read that bunch out of order, with Sheila last. I think he started with Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing with his teacher in class. His teacher also got him started on Dahl, by reading James and the Giant Peach in class. Knut had sent me a copy of The BFG so that was handy to keep the Dahl-love going.

I kind of love that Dahl's grownups tend to be so awful. And not for the mordant streak, but because I think of his books as little notes in a bottle to children in unloved circumstances. As much as Emmett enjoys them, I think a smartypants girl in a family of surly, non-readers would latch on to Matilda like a life-preserver. I knew a boy growing up with an abusive, alcoholic father and James was his favorite novel.


Aims - Jul 07, 2004 2:43:21 pm PDT #4728 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I think we read that bunch out of order, with Sheila last. I think he started with Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing with his teacher in class.

If you read it Tales, Superfudge, Sheila then that's the right order. I was just curious.

Starring Sally J Freedman as Herself is another wonderful Judy Blume book. I still read it occasionally. More for girls than boys, but still a nice read and wonderfully written.

I heart Judy Blume.


JZ - Jul 07, 2004 2:58:00 pm PDT #4729 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

little notes in a bottle to children in unloved circumstances

This is the line in Matilda that always gets me bawling (when I watched the movie with my mom, she almost had a stroke shouting, "Stop! Stop! Rewind! I need to hear that again!"):

So Matilda's strong young mind continued to grow, nurtured by the voices of all those authors who had sent their books out into the world like ships on the sea. These books gave Matilda a hopeful and comforting message: You are not alone.

And from Charles Taylor's review of the film on Salon.com:

At the end of the movie Matilda has her nose in another book, and among the last words we hear her say are "Call me Ishmael." In other words, this end is another beginning, with Matilda waiting to see where the next story will lead her. Perhaps, like the books she loves, out into the world, like a ship on the sea.

IIRC, Blume has said in interviews that Sally J Freedman is her most autobiographical book, and one of her favorites (not egotistically, but because so many of her specially beloved and missed family and friends live on in it).


Betsy HP - Jul 07, 2004 2:59:11 pm PDT #4730 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I got the same thing from Paula Danziger. The plots and dialogue were so true and real. Her stories never felt dumbed down. The Cat Ate My Gymsuit was my fav.

She's seriously ill, damn it. She had a major heart attack that left her with very limited heart function, and she's not a good candidate for a transplant because of obesity. Grr.


Aims - Jul 07, 2004 3:01:47 pm PDT #4731 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

IIRC, Blume has said in interviews that Sally J Freedman is her most autobiographical book, and one of her favorites

It is and it is. I think that's why it's one of my favorites. It was so good for me to read about another girl that did exactly what I did - pretend. All the damn time.

Hell, I still play dress up.


erikaj - Jul 07, 2004 3:37:29 pm PDT #4732 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Loved both Blume and Danziger growing up. Loved "Matilda" the movie, though I missed the book as a child.(About half my family is like those people. Sigh.) Sends Paula Danziger cardiac-ma...what the hell? Buffista -ma is very powerful.


Jesse - Jul 07, 2004 3:39:17 pm PDT #4733 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The Great Brain books screwed me up, because they were the first place I saw the word "gentiles," so I thought non-Mormon was the general meaning. Oops.


askye - Jul 07, 2004 3:46:31 pm PDT #4734 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

I haven't read all of Roald Dahl's books, I need to. But of the ones I read when I was a kid: James and the Giant Peach, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, and The Fantastic Mr. Fox, Mr. Fox was my favorite.

Also I liked Great Glass Elevator more than Chocolate Factory. The Great Glass Elevator is just so weird and strange with pills that make the grand parents lose age until the are minuses and the elevator going off in space.

And then I have a Children's Lit book from the class I took at college that has Roald Dahl's Little Red Riding Hood and the Wolf poem.


Tam - Jul 07, 2004 3:48:21 pm PDT #4735 of 10002
"...Singing their heads off, protected by the holy ghosts, flying in from the ocean, driving with their eyes closed." - Patty Griffin "Florida"

She's seriously ill, damn it. She had a major heart attack that left her with very limited heart function, and she's not a good candidate for a transplant because of obesity. Grr.

Oh! I didn't know! That makes me very sad.