Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

Willow ,'Showtime'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jesse - Jul 05, 2004 2:41:41 pm PDT #4621 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

To me, current "litfic" is the trade paperbacks on the front table at Barnes & Noble.

Also, although I haven't read much Dickens, I lurved Bleak House, and have a strategy for people who are freaked out by the length: read it as it was written. As a serial. Granted, I didn't actually spread it out one chapter a week or whatever, but I did take a couple of breaks. I think I read it over a couple of months. (Usually I finish the kind of book I generally read for fun in a day or two, even work days.)


Jesse - Jul 05, 2004 2:51:10 pm PDT #4622 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, and also, this whole discussion reminds me to give another shot to books I only read in high school, because I was generally unimpressed with them at the time, but I was generally unimpressed with anything.


Polter-Cow - Jul 05, 2004 2:58:17 pm PDT #4623 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ooh. Jesse really was too cool for school.


Jen - Jul 05, 2004 3:17:57 pm PDT #4624 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Here we go a-meara-ing:

I always think of "a fishhook/an open eye."

It kills me every time I read it. The book that's from (_Power Politics_) is incredible from start to finish.

For reference:

you fit into me
like a hook into an eye

a fish hook
an open eye

I can't read poetry with my higher brain on -- I just let my eyes skim the pretty words until some of them catch on my heart.

I do this sometimes, too, particularly with e. e. cummings. I'm not sure what it is about his work that lends me to heart-reading but it does. This is one of my favorites, and I get something different out of it when I read every word (it's a sonnet, with the correct scansion and rhyme, so reading every word emphasizes that) and when I just try to absorb the language through a weird kind of osmosis:

your homecoming will be my homecoming-

my selves go with you,only i remain;
a shadow phantom effigy or seeming

(an almost someone always who’s noone)

a noone who,till their and your returning,
spends the forever of his loneliness
dreaming their eyes have opened to your morning

feeling their stars have risen through your skies:

so,in how merciful love’s own name,linger
no more than selfless i can quite endure
the absence of that moment when a stranger
takes in his arms my very life who’s your

-when all fears hopes beliefs doubts disappear.
Everywhere and joy’s perfect wholeness we’re

Silvia Benso (her views on ethics would be interesting to a number of Buffistas - Jen, I'm looking at you.

Duly noted! I'll check her out.

That was a great list of poets upthread, Jen.

Thanks hayden! I love Richard Wright, too.

I feel like I left out so many poets from that list... Donne, Wordsworth, Coleridge, Baudelaire, Dickinson, Sexton, Forché, Glück (our current poet laureate), Neruda, García Lorca, Kees, Kenyon, Thomas, Roethke... The list is never-ending.


erikaj - Jul 05, 2004 3:39:56 pm PDT #4625 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Never read him, P-C. One day.(I'm just frustrated by my lack of understanding.)


Pix - Jul 05, 2004 3:43:18 pm PDT #4626 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

Did Mark Doty, Mary Oliver, Sharon Olds, and Linda Pastan make that list? I've been skippy girl, but those are a few of my favorite contemporary poets.


Jesse - Jul 05, 2004 3:49:56 pm PDT #4627 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesse really was too cool for school.

I once got an A on a paper I finished in longhand during class. There was no reason for me to respect my classes. Even worse, IIRC, that paper was for AP English.


DavidS - Jul 05, 2004 4:42:23 pm PDT #4628 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've been skippy girl, but those are a few of my favorite contemporary poets.

I pimped Sharon Olds.


Kate P. - Jul 05, 2004 4:50:52 pm PDT #4629 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I once got an A on a paper I finished in longhand during class. There was no reason for me to respect my classes. Even worse, IIRC, that paper was for AP English.

Heh. My senior year of high school, AP English, I handed in my final paper of the year the day before graduation. The grades had been due some time before that, and my teacher had called me in to tell me that he'd give me an A in the class if I promised to hand in an A paper before I graduated. So I did. (I believe the paper was on Louise Erdrich, who is one of *my* favorite contemporary poets.)


Hil R. - Jul 05, 2004 4:59:37 pm PDT #4630 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I once totally forgot about an essay that was due. I wrote it during study hall the period before it was due, and then when we got them back, I got an A- and the teacher read mine to the class as an example of how we should have approached this topic. (The question was, "Were the Dark Ages really dark?" My answer was basically, "Well, a little bit, but not really.")