You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.

Dawn ,'Storyteller'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Jul 03, 2004 7:04:04 pm PDT #4562 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

JZ is reading Moby Dick in the other room and just laughed out loud.

Previously she was reading an Alan Moore era Swamp Thing TPB and gasping at plot turns: "Oh! Oh no! Oh no!"


Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2004 7:11:48 pm PDT #4563 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

JZ is reading Moby Dick in the other room and just laughed out loud.

She just got to "The Squeezing of the Sperm," didn't she?

Let me see if I can find some quotes from my American Lit prof:

"It's the original Lord of the Rings."

"Like any good white Christian with a dark person in front of him, he starts to scream."

"There are no women here. This is the 19th century."

"We're gonna talk about sperm anyway...You're supposed to laugh, every time I say that."

Student: "You can take it as a replacement for the sex act, if you really want to go there."
Dr. Aranda: "Yes, right, we do want to go there."

"The fancy word for knowledge is 'epistemology.' [starts writing, stops] I can't even spell it; that's how fancy it is."

"Yeah, he's a freaky whale."


DavidS - Jul 03, 2004 7:13:14 pm PDT #4564 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Dr. Aranda rocks.


P.M. Marc - Jul 03, 2004 7:25:04 pm PDT #4565 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

In the library in my brain, Michael Chricton does not get shelved with the sci-fi

See, in the library in my brain, he just doesn't get shelved.


billytea - Jul 03, 2004 7:31:53 pm PDT #4566 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Dr. Aranda rocks.

Dr Aranda is freaking me out because Aranda is the name of a Canberra suburb, which when I lived there had the distinction of being about the only residential suburb with no government housing whatsoever.

...Ok, so I'm easily freaked out right now.


DavidS - Jul 03, 2004 7:45:18 pm PDT #4567 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

...Ok, so I'm easily freaked out right now.

"Look! A firefly!"


Jen - Jul 03, 2004 7:45:40 pm PDT #4568 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Poetry recommendations.

As It Was In The Beginning

1. Sappho

Even in translation, the regal beauty of her language is unsurpassed.

Labor
for my mad heart, and be
my ally.

2. Dante

What do you gain by locking horns with fate?

3. John Milton

Paradise Lost is the greatest epic poem in the English language.

I may assert Eternal Providence
and justify the ways of God to men.

4. George Gordon, Lord Byron

Punk rock, baby. He drank wine out of a silver-plated skull. He's the reason there's a quote about being "mad, bad, and dangerous to know." Westminster Abbey refused to bury him. Thankfully his talent as a writer meant that he walked the walk, too, and wasn't just a huge poseur.

They know not I knew thee,
Who knew thee too well: —
Long, long shall I rue thee,
Too deeply to tell.

5. John Keats

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,--that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know."

If Keats had lived to be 55, the entire face of modern literature would be different--imagine Keats writing at the same time as Walt Whitman. Instead, he died at 25, in 1821, with a body of work that was already a triumph.

Is Now

1. Scott Cairns

He'd gotten skinnier
than I'd imagined, and though he told the same
old jokes he's always told, there was something angry
in his laugh. Just before we left his room,
he stole my nose and wouldn't give it back.

I have a weakness for a great last line, and Scott Cairns knows how to write a last line that lands like a sucker punch to the gut.

2. Margaret Atwood

I would like to be the air
that inhabits you for a moment
only. I would like to be that unnoticed
& that necessary.

If you think she's a canon-izable prose writer, I beg you to read some of her poetry. I think it's a thousand times better.

3. William Butler Yeats

But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face.

4. Mark Strand

...you will fall into another darkness, one you will find
yourself making and remaking until it is perfect.

5. e. e. cummings

love is the every only god

No poet more truly expresses joy.

6. Robert Frost

Now no joy but lacks salt
That is not dashed with pain
And weariness and fault

Frost is dark. Dark, bitter, grim, and beautiful. Forget the way you learned about him in school and read "The Road Less Travelled" as a story of weary regret.

7. Leonard Cohen

When you call me close
to tell me
your body is not beautiful
I want my body and my hands
to be pools
for your looking and laughing.

Even if he'd never written music, he'd still be a great writer. Poetry is, I think, his first and true talent.

8. Marilyn Hacker

I drank our one year out in brine instead
of honey from the seasons of your tongue.

9. Rainer Maria Rilke

...while in the sky
the starry nights of another, sweeter country
blossomed above them and would never close.

10. Mary Oliver

You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.

11. Robert Lowell

a mother skunk with her column of kittens swills the garbage pail
She jabs her wedge-head in a cup
of sour cream, drops her ostrich tail,
and will not scare.

The first and best of the "confessional" poets.

12. Adrienne Rich

The words are purposes. The words are maps.

13. Sylvia Plath

In the melee surrounding her life and suicide, the fact of her genius as a lyricist is almost always neglected.

What ceremony of words can patch the havoc?

And Ever Shall Be, World Without End

William Shakespeare, _Shakespeare's Sonnets_. Every single one of them. Because it's the best book of poetry ever written. Language, passion, love, and the frailty of human hearts combined to blow the doors off the sonnet conventions. "With this key, Shakespeare unlocked his heart."

Amen.


Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2004 7:47:47 pm PDT #4569 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Look! A firefly!"

"Look! A robotic firefly!"

5. John Keats

Love.


DavidS - Jul 03, 2004 7:52:13 pm PDT #4570 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oooh, go Jen with your big poetical love.

However, you skipped the darkest work of art in any medium: Crow by Ted Hughes.

The poetry a talented man might write with two suicides on his conscience.

Where's my good friend, Wm. Blake: "Prudence is a rich, ugly old maid courted by incapacity."

William Stevens? Marianne Moore? More recently, Sharon Olds. C'mon, work with me here.


Jen - Jul 03, 2004 7:55:12 pm PDT #4571 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

I'm on my way out the door, so the list is shorter than it could be. Wallace Stevens would have been an excellent addition, yes ("the nothing that is"); I can live without Hughes, Moore, and Olds.

This was a very "what Jen likes" recommendation list, so it's skewed heavily towards things I like to read and not just the talent of the writer.