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We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Ginger - Jul 02, 2004 4:17:26 pm PDT #4419 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My mother gave that edition of Childcraft to my half-sister, who sold it in a yard sale. My sister and I have not forgiven either of them.


DavidS - Jul 02, 2004 5:06:52 pm PDT #4420 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I went and re-read the thread because I had skipped around to respond specifically to things. Some thoughts:

P-Cow: you really must change your tag to "Quentin Compson is my homeboy." Also, Thomas Sutpen had a red right hand.

Teppy: Damn, but I love your very honest (non-egotistical) response to the content of the discussion and dogged attempts to understand.

Connie, Susan: You are both such thoughtful, insightful readers - I just wish you wouldn't worry whether your credentials are in order.

I love love love Jen, and her annotated booklist.

And Heather and Julianna and Brenda - so many intelligent, thoughtful reasonable posts that didn't take sides but explored the issues in the middle.

Ple & Nutty: Damn, you're two of the most analytical people I know and you weren't backing me? WHY??!!! I must blame it on my poor articulation of my position. But also...Damn you for your autonomy and differing conclusions!

Jacqueline: I'm so glad I married you.

Calli: I love Stoppard's Travesties! Jilli, I think you'd like it too.


DavidS - Jul 02, 2004 5:10:58 pm PDT #4421 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, I don't remember if I responded to Lilty - no worries. You were fine.


Atropa - Jul 02, 2004 5:16:30 pm PDT #4422 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Saki (H. H. Monroe, early 20th C.) is one of my favorite short story writers. While they aren't all perfect, many of his stories are witty, occasionally fierce gems. I'd recommend the stories "Tobermory" and "Sredni Vashtar." Both are in the collection The Chronicals of Clovis.

Where do you think my Devilbunny (everyone's future Lord and Master) got his name from? Yes, he's named after Clovis from the Saki stories.

Jilli if you haven't read Frankenstein you should. I love it to peices. Although I've never gotten into Dracula.

We are mirror opposites, it seems. Frankenstein has never (in the semi-distant past, I'll admit) held my attention, while I re-read Dracula once a year.


JZ - Jul 02, 2004 5:22:00 pm PDT #4423 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Re everyone who followed my bloviating posts with moans about being not smart enough for the Buffistas (Teppy, I'm looking at you):

Shit, I've been reading along feeling like the stupidest stupidhead in Stupidville compared to all y'all and the things you read and genuinely enjoy that I can't begin to wrap my brain around. Dammit, someone here has to own up to being an actual smartyhead!

And I'd like to nominate P-C, on account of he made me feel the stupidest with his Quentin Compson love and all. I have never been able to read more than six pages of Faulkner, ever; he makes my head pound with my total intellectual inadequacy and lack of anything, and people who read him willingly, for pleasure, are like unto demigods to me.

So, official verdict: We're all unfit for Buffistahood, except for P-C (and probably Nutty. And also ita. Other exceptions to be added as necessary, but basically we're all unworthy, which at least levels the posting field and should make us all feel exactly no more or less insecure than anyone else about our intellectual cred.)


DavidS - Jul 02, 2004 5:31:04 pm PDT #4424 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but basically we're all unworthy,

No, no, no - this has to be wrong. More of an all-worthingness team, really.

Also, when are you coming home and why aren't you home already?


Calli - Jul 02, 2004 5:33:07 pm PDT #4425 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yes, he's named after Clovis from the Saki stories.

Really?!?! I figured he was named after some early medieval king or other. I hardly ever run into someone who reads Saki for fun. Isn't he delicious? He has this sort of dark thread under the wit, which pops up in things like "Sredni Vashtar" and that story about Pan the title of which is escaping me at the moment. When I first went online, back in the days of BBSs, my first user name was Tobermory.

Hec, Darth and I had a lovely long natter about Travesties at my first RTP-ista f2f. I believe he was in an NC production of it. It's one of my favorite plays, and introduced me to Dada. (What can I say, I've had a sheltered life.) Have you read or seen Arcadia? Lovely language. And I love Stoppard's way of layering his plot threads.


DavidS - Jul 02, 2004 5:36:48 pm PDT #4426 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Have you read or seen Arcadia? Lovely language. And I love Stoppard's way of layering his plot threads.

Nay. Though Stoppard's The Real Thing is playing locally this fall. More imporantly though ACT is doing The Black Rider with the Waits score and Marianne Faithful in it. Mmmmmmmmm, darkalicious. But I do love Stoppard's layering, and language and embodying-ideas.


DavidS - Jul 02, 2004 5:38:21 pm PDT #4427 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

More Stoppard/Real Thing trivia: When I lived in Boston, I saw Jeremy Irons and Glenn Close get out of a cab together in Harvard Square while they were doing the American premiere of that play.


Calli - Jul 02, 2004 5:45:01 pm PDT #4428 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Real Thing trivia: When I lived in Boston, I saw Jeremy Irons and Glenn Close get out of a cab together in Harvard Square while they were doing the American premiere of that play.

I bet that was a kick-ass version of the play. I wish I'd seen them playing Henry and Annie. I'd have loved to see them do the bit in Act 2, scene 5, where they're discussing the idea of writers and what makes good writing.