Hey, preaching to the choir. I thought our Lady of the Perpetual Sea Breeze was the real deal until the Divine Miss J walked right through that door and right into my ass—which is where my heart is…physiologically. I could show you an x-ray.

Lorne ,'Time Bomb'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Dana - Jul 02, 2004 7:12:15 am PDT #4184 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

My author that I hate that everyone else should hate too: Thomas Hardy.

Read Jude the Obscure in high school. Hated it. Ten years later in grad school, read it again. Thought "maybe I was just being an obnoxious high school senior with no patience for work." Nope. Hated it more. Read The Mayor of Casterbridge last semester. Hate-on is definitely for Hardy, not just for Jude. His characters are never sympathetic, his plots are just excuses to beat people up, and his overall message is basically "life sucks", which I knew on my own, thank you.


Connie Neil - Jul 02, 2004 7:13:03 am PDT #4185 of 10002
brillig

Fred Pete, I believe you're correct re: the Chateau. Villefort was about to release Dantes until he realized that his father, Nortier, was involved and Dad's involvement would wreck his career.

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Jessica - Jul 02, 2004 7:13:21 am PDT #4186 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The last chapter is titled, "The conclusion, in which nothing is concluded".

Oh my god, it's like a novelization of Dogville.


Nutty - Jul 02, 2004 7:17:13 am PDT #4187 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, but there was the whole Napoleon thing. If Napoleon hadn't left Elba when he did, the whole imprisonment might have been much, much shorter, and thus the bitter would not have been quite so acute.

Actually what is funny is seeing movie adaptations of the book, where they (necessarily) shorten and simplify -- one recent one made Albert into the Count's son, and Mercedes married (a combined Morcerf/Danglars character) quickly in order to hide the illegitimacy of her pregnancy. It made for a (not in the book but) very dramatic reveal at the end, which led to swordfighting, and I can't but approve of swordfighting.

I do get the sense that Monte Cristo started out as one thing, and morphed as Dumas was writing it into a thing where the Count became his ego-ideal. And that's why the ending is weak -- he didn't have the stones to kill his own ego-ideal; his ego-ideal couldn't end up alone and bitter; his ego-ideal couldn't get back together with someone who had married his enemy. Otherwise, I think it could have been a fascinating study of what revenge -- and expiation -- does to the soul; instead, it was a half-baked adventure, which was great fun, but not satisfying.


Polter-Cow - Jul 02, 2004 7:18:14 am PDT #4188 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My author that I hate that everyone else should hate too: Thomas Hardy.

I know another staunch Hardy-hater. I'm thinking he's low on my list of authors to check out.

Unrelatedly, I still need to read Wuthering Heights. It's really short, isn't it? And I have this copy I got for, like, a dime. I should just read it, huh.


Calli - Jul 02, 2004 7:21:08 am PDT #4189 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I read Wuthering Heights when I was around 15, and then again last year. It was like it was two completely different books. Do you like reading things through a rather unreliable narrator and having to take PoV considerations into your reading as you go along, P-C? WH is great for that.

ETA: I kind of liked Tess of the Durbyvilles. Not enough to read it twice, though.


Lilty Cash - Jul 02, 2004 7:21:24 am PDT #4190 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Unrelatedly, I still need to read Wuthering Heights. It's really short, isn't it? And I have this copy I got for, like, a dime. I should just read it, huh.

Yes. Yes you should. It's wonderful.


msbelle - Jul 02, 2004 7:21:53 am PDT #4191 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Skip Skip Skip to my lou

so hey, I am reading the second Bridget Jones and while I've laughed out loud a couple of times, I find her neither charming nor compelling in this. It's been a couple of years since I read the first one. I remember her being overly-neurotic in that, but not on this same "every decision I make is bad" level. And her frineds, god, with friends like that, who needs enemies. bad advice, unhelpful distractions, and self-absorbtion. Am I misremembering what she was like in the first one?

I am also working my way through Tart Noir which has been on my shelves for a few years. Two different friends told me they didn't think I'd like it and so far I've liked about half the stories.

I am hoping to pick up some stuff that I like better this weekend. On tap is a Kate Shugak mystery and possibly some child development nonfiction.


Ginger - Jul 02, 2004 7:22:41 am PDT #4192 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Johnson wrote Rasselas in a week to pay for his mother's funeal expenses. Fortunately, his reputation rests not on his fiction, but on his nonfiction, particularly The Lives of the Poets and the dictionary. I don't think of Rasselas as a particularly successful book, but Johnson's essays can be brilliant.


Steph L. - Jul 02, 2004 7:22:54 am PDT #4193 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I had a totally different view of Wuthering Heights when I read it in college, versus when I read it in high school.

I thought Heathcliff/Cathy was this amazing, romantic ideal when I was in high school.

In college, I thought it was fucked up and overblown and unhealthy as hell (the Heathcliff/Cathy saga).