You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Vortex - Jul 01, 2004 11:29:15 am PDT #3897 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Back to pass pages. I'm freaking, slightly - they arrived today and they need them back Tuesday and Monday is a federal holiday. GAH.

tell 'em that they'll get them Wednesday and like it. They've likely forgotten that Monday is a holiday.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2004 11:29:35 am PDT #3898 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I recently read a version of Beauty and the Beast, and suddenly recognized that I was reading a story of Stockholm Syndrome.

See, I love that. But I did it the opposite way around - when I first heard the term Stockholm Syndrome, I thought, huh, why is this reminding me of something, and what is it reminding me of? And Beauty and the Beast popped into my head.

And this could get me going in a whole new Anne Sexton-ish tangent about fairy tales, and how they encode rules of behavior for little girls.

But I won't.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2004 11:30:27 am PDT #3899 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And "The Taming of the Shrew" is fun, as long as it's Cybil Shepard and Bruce Willis.

I actually liked it with Julia Stiles and hottie hot man Heath Ledger, too.


Betsy HP - Jul 01, 2004 11:31:18 am PDT #3900 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I like it with Sam <sigh> Waterston and Joseph Papp.


Aims - Jul 01, 2004 11:31:18 am PDT #3901 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Oooh - haven't seen either one.

And honestly? Until I called MM to confirm, I had forgotten that "Taming" *was* Shakespere. What a doof!

signed, Loves Kiss me, Kate.


Connie Neil - Jul 01, 2004 11:32:01 am PDT #3902 of 10002
brillig

encode rules of behavior for little girls

That's a good point, Teppy. Do you think it's primarily aimed at little girls or at kids in general? IE, "walk in the woods/dark place by yourself and wolf/wicked witch/nasties will eat you".

I know "Women Who Run With The Wolves" is laughed at lot, but I found her interpretation of fairy tales fascinating and insightful.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2004 11:34:03 am PDT #3903 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

encode rules of behavior for little girls

That's a good point, Teppy. Do you think it's primarily aimed at little girls or at kids in general?

I suppose kids in general, so that boys learn that They Do The Rescuing Of The Helpless Princess, and girls learn that they are the helpless princesses, meant to be forever passive.


Calli - Jul 01, 2004 11:36:21 am PDT #3904 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I recently read a version of Beauty and the Beast, and suddenly recognized that I was reading a story of Stockholm Syndrome.

Ooooh! I hadn't thought of it that way. I'm gonna go nab my office book buddy and try this theory out on her as I head out.


Polter-Cow - Jul 01, 2004 11:37:14 am PDT #3905 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I can't decide if you scare me deeply, or you're the coolest human alive.

Hee hee. I'd prefer the latter.

The digressions annoyed me no end -- which is also my problem with Dostoevsky.

Oh, Fred. I love Crime and Punishment. An interesting character with a crisis, a detective story, plot twists...I totally wasn't expecting a classic to be so fun to read.


Betsy HP - Jul 01, 2004 11:38:31 am PDT #3906 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

girls learn that they are the helpless princesses, meant to be forever passive.

You have to read the right fairy-tales. "East of the Sun, West of the Moon" and "The Black Bull of Norroway" both have active heroines who wind up rescuing the prince.