Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Connie Neil - Jun 10, 2004 5:39:20 am PDT #3216 of 10002
brillig

Spider Robinson wrote a short story about copyright in perpetuity. I can't remember the title. In the story, the wife of a famous song writer is lobbying against the idea, which surprises people. She points out that her husband realized his most famous song was built off a lullaby he'd heard as a child, and if works were copyrighted forever, then there was a good chance that the flow of ideas would eventually be choked off.


deborah grabien - Jun 10, 2004 6:00:35 am PDT #3217 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Nutty's correct on all counts - 1924 was the big divisive year, thanks to Der Maus. The big profitable estates and corps are really big on the "mine forever! mine! MINE!" school of copyright enforcement.

And when you use the IP word - "intellectual property" - cans of worms the size of Cthulu get opened.

The permission specialists are one way to go. It's a lot easier if you have an agent or publisher for your work already; as harrowing as trying to track down the niece of the second cousin twice removed/legatee of Millay's estate was (we were on publishing deadline, and she just stayed invisible for way longer than was comfortable), it would have been far worse without the official letterhead of Pan UK to back it up.


Fred Pete - Jun 10, 2004 6:02:00 am PDT #3218 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

The big profitable estates and corps are really big on the "mine forever! mine! MINE!" school of copyright enforcement.

I always wondered where WB got that aspect of Daffy Duck's character.


deborah grabien - Jun 10, 2004 6:07:06 am PDT #3219 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I always wondered where WB got that aspect of Daffy Duck's character.

Heh. I seem to remember a small TV documentary on the history of the Warner Brothers cartoons, and the literaly loonytoons who came up with my favourite cartoon critters ever, and there was a lot of deep, deep digging at the Disney boys.

That whole copyright thing - bringing this even more firmly back on topic - is a lynchpin in Kavalier and Klay, as well.


erikaj - Jun 10, 2004 6:20:26 am PDT #3220 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

God, that was good.(But now, stupid me, I'm wrestling with Infinite Jest which is making me feel like a cartoon of a blonde woman. But there are assassins in wheelchairs in it.)


deborah grabien - Jun 10, 2004 6:32:39 am PDT #3221 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

But there are assassins in wheelchairs in it.

Dude, what's not to love?


Calli - Jun 10, 2004 7:19:24 am PDT #3222 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Connie, I think the SR story you're thinking of is "Melancholy Elephants".

Mystery novel rec: Last weekend a friend of mine tormented me by reading a novel by Donald Westlake in front of me and giggling. When I finally wrenched Don't Ask from her hands, I loved it. Tonight I'll be heading to the library in the hopes of finding much much more by him.


Connie Neil - Jun 10, 2004 7:36:48 am PDT #3223 of 10002
brillig

Oh, gosh, Westlake is a scream. And, yes! That's the story. I knew it was something about elephants.


deborah grabien - Jun 10, 2004 7:37:19 am PDT #3224 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Hmmm. I was given Don't Ask for Christmas, and have tried three times to get into it. No luck so far.

Maybe I'll give it another pop.


erikaj - Jun 10, 2004 7:52:52 am PDT #3225 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I like it, but it's not so much like reading as translating, despite still being in English. And if nothing else, I will build upper body strength hefting it because even in paperback it's big and heavy.