Also, that book is where I learned how Baccarat is played.
Me too! I had all my card-playing friends playing baccarat for ages after I read Casino Royale.
But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.
River ,'Safe'
We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
JohnSweden - Jun 04, 2004 4:40:42 am PDT #3066 of 10002
I can't even.
Dana - Jun 04, 2004 5:22:43 am PDT #3067 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Mmm. Archie Goodwin.
Nutty - Jun 04, 2004 5:59:46 am PDT #3068 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I think The Telling goes cheap on some of the worldbuilding and the satire, which is frustrating, because other parts of the worldbuilding are excellent and when you finally do get a sense of the main character and the person who would be her antagonist in any other novels, there is some genuinely great writing there.
I suspect my affection for the second half overwhelms possible negative aspects of the first half. Also, the first time I read it, I had no idea it was intended as a parody of modern China.
I do remember watching CTHD, some 6 months later, and getting to the end, and being like, Hey!
beth b - Jun 04, 2004 6:06:14 am PDT #3069 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
older spy novels - Alister Mclean. I read him in highschool -- at the same time when I was reading MacInnes. So I don't know if he was very good or not. two titles Circus and Guns of Navarone
Beverly - Jun 04, 2004 6:12:24 am PDT #3070 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Oh, beth, that's right. The 3 macs: MacInnes, McLean and (John D.) MacDonald. Wow, that was a while ago.
Betsy HP - Jun 04, 2004 6:16:23 am PDT #3071 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
Katerina, right.
That's why she loved her son more than all her daughters. It wasn't sexism, it was because her eldest was Borowis'. It's also why the younger son knew somebody had to marry her. Agreed on the slap. In historical context, it's less awful, but it's still pretty awful.
deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2004 7:29:41 am PDT #3072 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
I think the best Fleming novel is Casino Royale -- it suffers least from the recycling of unconscious tropes of the author, and works best in its historical context: one of the villains is a man who spent time in a Displaced Persons camp after the war, so he quite literally has no identity or nationality at all.
Yes yes yes yes yes and more yes. Also? I think it's the saddest of the Bond novels. Bond is betrayed, he can only deal by hardening himself and betraying his own heart. You'll never see him played that way in all those big dumb movies, damnit.
Connie Neil - Jun 04, 2004 7:34:14 am PDT #3073 of 10002
brillig
Well, one of the Brosnan movies has him telling a woman that the only way he survives is by not letting himself care, or some such thing. t /movie natter
deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2004 7:41:48 am PDT #3074 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Of course, in the movies, he always gets the girl; not so, in the books. For some reason - maybe its graininess of the personal feelings portrayed - the first of the two Timothy Dalton movies came the closest for me, to the way Fleming actually wrote Bond. When Bond is betrayed by his Russian friend, Dalton just smoked his own pain; you could see it fester.
Connie Neil - Jun 04, 2004 7:56:08 am PDT #3075 of 10002
brillig
mmm, Dalton ...