To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.

Anya ,'Sleeper'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Java cat - May 27, 2004 3:39:27 pm PDT #2930 of 10002
Not javachik

One of the things I thought Ron Hansen did very well in Mariette in Ecstasy is present the zen-like grace of the daily hours of cloistered life. It's the best part of the book, IMO. Agnes of God and a few tv movies about hysterical young nuns manifesting stigmata had come out by the time I read his book so that part of it was not so interesting nor provocative.

Drat, I wrote a long thing about Annie Dillard and Pilgrim at Tinker Creek but I took so long, my log in name was spat out. Anyway, her parents live about 1/2 mile away from my parents now-former house, where I grew up. Annie grew up in Pittsburgh, but her little sister, Molly is my age and grew up in my home town. (who is it also from PA? let's email!) Their father, Frank Doak, about whom much of An American Childhood is written, taught school at the private school in Rolling Rock, and performed in all the local theater productions of The Valley Players. He's also in Day of the Dead, George Romero's film, playing a radio announcer. He was our only local movie star as a result.

I lurved Pilgrim at Tinker Creek but my book group, nsm. If you like PaTC too, then also try Prodigal Summer by Barbara Kingsolver. Also maybe Enslaved by Ducks.


Steph L. - May 27, 2004 3:44:08 pm PDT #2931 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Pilgrim at Tinker Creek has been in my To Be Read pile for a while now. Maybe a year or so. Last year, when my back was all injured, one of the women in my writing class would call me and read to me from it. Very sweet.


Amy - May 27, 2004 3:47:29 pm PDT #2932 of 10002
Because books.

I adored Mariette in Ecstasy. And I live in PA! Bucks County, though, not out near Pittsburgh.

Thought of another book I loved that most people I know personally haven't read: John Dollar by Marianne... Ack! Blanking on her last name. But she's Salmon Rushdie's ex-wife, I think. Wiggins, maybe?

Gah. I hate typos.


Java cat - May 27, 2004 3:50:07 pm PDT #2933 of 10002
Not javachik

You know how certain scenes from books or movies come back to you? I still have flashbacks of the scene from Pilgrim at Tinker Creek where the just-hatched moth who didn't have enough room inside the classroom jelly-jar to spread his wings so they could dry properly is slowly walking down the road behind the school with his crippled wings, frozen so that he will never to able to open them, after the teacher lets him out of the jar after school. shudder. Poor thing.


Java cat - May 27, 2004 3:52:18 pm PDT #2934 of 10002
Not javachik

Bucks County! I know Bucks County, kind of. Near a river, used to be a kind of groovy-cool-hippy-arty-avante garde town. Is it still?


Steph L. - May 27, 2004 3:52:25 pm PDT #2935 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, god. Now I don't want to read it. I can't handle helpless things/people being hurt.


Beverly - May 27, 2004 3:54:14 pm PDT #2936 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh dear. Java is me wrt the moth.


Java cat - May 27, 2004 4:04:21 pm PDT #2937 of 10002
Not javachik

Well, it's not all like that. The book was written after her husband died, and she holed up in either VA or West VA. The book is very much about the beauty and the terror of the natural world. The thing that's so tragic about the moth scene is that it was totally preventable and caused by human ignorance. It's a heavy but good lesson to learn. Most of the book is about the reality of the natural world, which is both beautiful and terrifying - it being eat or be eaten, of course. It's well worth reading. It's beautifully written, she didn't win the Pulizer for it for no reason. I'm not sure what else I'm trying to say. It's about what IS in nature, and she presents all kinds of interesting stories of nature of the kind that billytea presents that we love so much, like a kind of bug that liquifies the insides of frogs and then sucks them dry and stuff like that. She pretty much sticks to the natural world of fauna and flora, not what humans do, with digressions into her own mental/spiritual state. Pulitzer!


Dani - May 27, 2004 4:16:22 pm PDT #2938 of 10002
I believe vampires are the world's greatest golfers

Hey, AmyLiz! I liked John Dollar too. And it is Marianne Wiggins.


Amy - May 27, 2004 5:05:44 pm PDT #2939 of 10002
Because books.

Near a river, used to be a kind of groovy-cool-hippy-arty-avante garde town.

New Hope is on the river in Bucks County, about fifteen mminutes north of me, and it's still very arty, antique-y, but with lots of fun bars and, strangely (?) a large contingent of motorcycle enthusiasts. In the summer, hordes of guys on Harleys cruise through the center of town. Love your tag, by the way.

Hey, Dani! John Dollar was just spooky-grim. Kind of Lord of the Flies with girls. Loved it. Her writing was beautiful. Nice to know someone aside from me read it!