Wesley: All right. I'm going to let you all in on something you may have trouble comprehending. I assure you however-- Gunn: Vampires are real. Wesley: I was telling!

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - Apr 29, 2004 10:58:28 am PDT #2491 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The best Arthur book to me, aside from Mallory, is Rosemary Sutcliff's Sword at Sunset, with Arthur as a chieftain trying to hold civilization together in post-Roman Britain. Rosemary Sutcliff is one of my favorites anyway; her books set me off on my adolescent obsession with Roman Britain.

Ginger, sistah! I pimp Sutcliff whenever I can, and I'm bummed that much of her Roman Britain stuff is OOP.

I know I'm not the only former SR fan who stopped bothering to buy his stuff after repeat disappointments.

Indeed not. I came close to throwing one of the Callahan's collections across the room. Something about brothels and a nuclear bomb, and it was just awful. Granted, the Callahan's books were never brilliant, but they just got worse and worse. I won't read him anymore, although I adored Stardancer when I was 15.

I didn't splurge at Powell's too much, but I did get 5 books. I'll do the full list when I'm at home so I get the authors right.


Aims - Apr 29, 2004 11:01:33 am PDT #2492 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Dani, I would love them!!


Dani - Apr 29, 2004 11:06:46 am PDT #2493 of 10002
I believe vampires are the world's greatest golfers

I think I still have your address filed away from the sekrit gift exchange, Aimee. Let me check & if I can't find it I'll email you.

The breastfeeding book is particularly good for practical advice, if you don't mind a little crunchy-granola. The other one is a fascinating (and accessible) read about neurological development.


Aims - Apr 29, 2004 11:07:59 am PDT #2494 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Oooh...I like granola!

And now, I sorta want granola.


Ginger - Apr 29, 2004 11:08:39 am PDT #2495 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Consuela, I certainly pimp Sutcliff at every opportunity, and I've given The Lantern Bearers and Eagle of the Ninth to practically every teenager I know. Have you read her memoirs, Blue Remembered Hills?


Dani - Apr 29, 2004 11:10:54 am PDT #2496 of 10002
I believe vampires are the world's greatest golfers

I had no idea Rosemary Sutcliff had written memoirs. Must see if they're in the library.

I loved the Roman Britain books, and also the one written from the POV of a Pict (I think?). IIRC the title was Mark of the Horse Lord.

Ah, Amazon says I have the title right, but remembered the details wrong - it's about a Roman who impersonates the king of a Pictish tribe.


Consuela - Apr 29, 2004 11:34:59 am PDT #2497 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Have you read her memoirs, Blue Remembered Hills?

No! I didn't now it existed. Must find.

I loved Mark of the Horse Lord, loved the utterly unexpected ending (unexpected for a YA novel, anyway), and still can picture the image of the golden plover. She was so marvelous.

Ginger & Dani, you know about the various tributes to Sutcliff?


Ginger - Apr 29, 2004 12:18:24 pm PDT #2498 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

One of the great things about Sutcliff is that her endings are frequently not what you expect. The image I always remember is Aquila's lighting Rutupiae light after the legions leave. No, I don't know anything about the tributes, Consuela.


Susan W. - Apr 29, 2004 12:21:28 pm PDT #2499 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I should look for Sword at Sunset. I like my Arthur stories Romano-Celtic and grounded in the Dark Ages. I just can't get into the faux-medieval high chivalry versions for some reason.


Ginger - Apr 29, 2004 12:36:07 pm PDT #2500 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Susan, Sutcliff has a series of books about a Roman family and its decendants in Britain, which is loosely linked to Sword at Sunset. They are The Eagle of the Ninth, The Silver Branch and The Lantern Bearers. The first three are, quite erroneously, I think, labeled juveniles. I tend to avoid superlatives, but they're the best historical fiction I've ever read. They all have the theme that civilization is a light that must be nurtured and fought for by individuals. They're not so tied together that you have to read them in order; they just have "aha" moments when you realize that a character in one book is a descendant of a character in a previous book.