You got fired, and you still hang around here like a big loser. Why can't he?

Cordelia ,'Chosen'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Kate P. - Apr 27, 2004 5:53:26 pm PDT #2417 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Which would you recommend first, ita? And the Firefly comparison was made knowing only what I could tell from the cover art and back-cover blurb, so I freely admit it could be erroneous.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2004 5:56:13 pm PDT #2418 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Outside of his big series (Vlad and Paarfi, which are intertwined), I love The Sun The Moon & The Stars -- it's sort of Microserfs for artsies. And To Reign In Hell may be seen as a whole lot of work for one particular joke (Get thee behind me, Satan!) but I liked it a lot too.

I get a little impatient with the floweriness (florality?) of Paarfi, but adore Vlad to pieces, even though he changes (as does the tone) in the Vladdy books. Those I'd recommend reading in publication order.`


Kate P. - Apr 27, 2004 5:59:07 pm PDT #2419 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

t taking notes


JohnSweden - Apr 27, 2004 6:02:46 pm PDT #2420 of 10002
I can't even.

I love the Sun, the Moon and the Stars and To Reign in Hell as well. Probably my two favourites. I actually wrote that I thought Feng's was one of the weaker books, but I pre-edited. I like Agyar and The Gypsy less than Feng's, for sure. But I should give them another try. Freedom and Necessity (with Emma Bull) is excellent too. The Vlad Taltos books are the bomb, but as ita noted, they vary a fair bit in tone, particularly around the middle of the run.


meara - Apr 27, 2004 6:04:13 pm PDT #2421 of 10002

See, I had a lot of trouble getting THROUGH Freedom and Necessity...it seemed like it ought to be interesting, but it just wasn't working for me.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2004 6:04:55 pm PDT #2422 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think I didn't get Freedom & Necessity. The Hegelian Dialectic (and its relevance) still escapes me. I don't remember The Gypsy, but Agyar was good, I recall that.


laurmb - Apr 27, 2004 6:07:06 pm PDT #2423 of 10002
Well I have snost and lost.

I love The Sun The Moon & The Stars -- it's sort of Microserfs for artsies.

I am swooning. Two of my favorite books, by authors (Brust & Douglas Coupland) I never hear mentioned at the same time.

Back to Brust - I'd suggest anyone start with the Vlad books, in publication order. I actually like the Paarfi novels better, but I think the Vlad stories are excellent (excellent=fun+smart in my book) and a better intro to that universe. I'm not a big Feng fan, but now I'm going to reread it because it's been ages (well before watching Firefly) since I read it.

Thanks for all the Tanith Lee suggestions. My library list is getting to be a mile long...


dcp - Apr 27, 2004 6:30:50 pm PDT #2424 of 10002
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

I'm not much of a Brust fan, but I remember liking Cowboy Feng's Space Bar and Grille. It was so long ago that I can't remember any details, I'll have to go look it up again.


Polter-Cow - Apr 27, 2004 6:47:03 pm PDT #2425 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

it's sort of Microserfs for artsies.

Ooh, I love Microserfs. And Generation X. I'll have to keep my eye out for this Brust book.


deborah grabien - Apr 27, 2004 9:19:26 pm PDT #2426 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Which? People keep telling me to read Tanith Lee but I don't know where to start.

Placing my vote for The Birthgrave and my alltime favourite of hers, Kill the Dead. There's something so charming about irony when it's genuinely loving.