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We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


P.M. Marc - Mar 23, 2004 6:16:37 am PST #1787 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

100 most mispronounced words/phrases. There were a few I use that I hadn't known were wrong, most notably "spitting image."

For many of those, what a bunch of prescriptivist twerps infected with that unfortunate notion that the English are always right. The general smugness in the write up just made me desire to smack 'em. Hard. Probably with a copy of Language Change: Progress or Decay or The Language Instinct.

It's not. There is no such thing. Unless you can't get out of your house for the books.

I can't get out of my side of the bed for books, and I'm out of shelf space. I may have too many.


Vortex - Mar 23, 2004 6:18:18 am PST #1788 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I can't get out of my side of the bed for books, and I'm out of shelf space. I may have too many.

I have six boxes of books in my hallway, my bookshelves are full to the point where the books are two layers deep. There's a pile of books on my nightstand, a pile ontop of my radiator and another pile on the floor. too many?

I'm honestly seriously considering getting a storage area.


Jesse - Mar 23, 2004 6:26:17 am PST #1789 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For many of those, what a bunch of prescriptivist twerps infected with that unfortunate notion that the English are always right. The general smugness in the write up just made me desire to smack 'em. Hard.

YES! Me too. So, it didn't used to be "spitting image." It also didn't used to be "good bye."


Vortex - Mar 23, 2004 6:28:36 am PST #1790 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, my other issue is that there are plenty of phrases/words in the list that are technically incorrect, but have moved into common usage, like persnickety. I bet that if you started using the "correct" pronounciation, folks would be correcting _you_ left and right.


Steph L. - Mar 23, 2004 6:35:32 am PST #1791 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I bet that if you started using the "correct" pronounciation, folks would be correcting _you_ left and right.

Like "forte" -- it's only supposed to be pronounced "for-TAY" when referring to music; when it's used to mean a strong point, it's supposed to be pronounced "fort."

And every time I've tried to use that pronounciation, I've gotten corrected.


Jesse - Mar 23, 2004 6:37:06 am PST #1792 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

m-w.com says:

In forte we have a word derived from French that in its "strong point" sense has no entirely satisfactory pronunciation. Usage writers have denigrated \'for-"tA\ and \'for-tE\ because they reflect the influence of the Italian-derived 2forte. Their recommended pronunciation \'fort\, however, does not exactly reflect French either: the French would write the word le fort and would rhyme it with English for. So you can take your choice, knowing that someone somewhere will dislike whichever variant you choose. All are standard, however. In British English \'fo-"tA\ and \'fot\ predominate; \'for-"tA\ and \for-'tA\ are probably the most frequent pronunciations in American English.


P.M. Marc - Mar 23, 2004 6:38:21 am PST #1793 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

From MW

usage: In forte we have a word derived from French that in its "strong point" sense has no entirely satisfactory pronunciation. Usage writers have denigrated \'for-"tA\ and \'for-tE\ because they reflect the influence of the Italian-derived 2forte. Their recommended pronunciation \'fort\, however, does not exactly reflect French either: the French would write the word le fort and would rhyme it with English for. So you can take your choice, knowing that someone somewhere will dislike whichever variant you choose. All are standard, however. In British English \'fo-"tA\ and \'fot\ predominate; \'for-"tA\ and \for-'tA\ are probably the most frequent pronunciations in American English.


Katie M - Mar 23, 2004 6:39:18 am PST #1794 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

That's my favorite cross-post ever.


P.M. Marc - Mar 23, 2004 6:39:36 am PST #1795 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Jesse, holy mother of freakish X-posts.


Steph L. - Mar 23, 2004 6:39:37 am PST #1796 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You funny x-posting geeks!