You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

River ,'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Wolfram - Mar 19, 2004 12:04:18 pm PST #1586 of 10002
Visilurking

Yet another reason why "how dare you tell my child there's such a thing as homosexuality!" is as stupid and futile a sentence uttered under these American skies. Kids are people; they move in the world.

I think you do have the right to determine at what age you teach your kids about homosexuality. For some parents a children's book written for 6 year olds is not the age when they wanted to have that talk.


Strix - Mar 19, 2004 12:08:02 pm PST #1587 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Ginger, yes, you do predate me a bit, but my folks live by 22nd and Lover's Lane; my cousins went to Eugene Field, and I used to walk out dog past it on fall evenings.

It's still very much there, and FWIW, won, I think, top elementary school in MO award of some kind last year.


Betsy HP - Mar 19, 2004 12:10:51 pm PST #1588 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

For some parents a children's book written for 6 year olds is not the age when they wanted to have that talk.

But those same parents are going to be equally aggrieved by front-page stories on gay marriage (indeed, many of them are) and by men holding hands in public.

As a parent, your job is to say "Other people believe that X, but we don't." You say that quite a lot. I moved from the Bible Belt to California to reduce the number of times I would have to say that.


beth b - Mar 19, 2004 12:11:29 pm PST #1589 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Seriously I think it is a parental responsibility to know what your kids are watching on tv and reading in books.

I did say know -- not control.


Ginger - Mar 19, 2004 12:13:21 pm PST #1590 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Erin, we lived about four blocks from the school and about six blocks from this local ice cream store that everyone went to. It was across the street from a newstand with comic books, and I'd walk there every Saturday, buy an ice cream cone and comic books, and walk back eating ice cream and reading.


beth b - Mar 19, 2004 12:13:47 pm PST #1591 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

at 6 - you should be at the library with your child. t horrified librarian that see 4 yr olds in the library with 7 yr old siblings 'in charge'.


Betsy HP - Mar 19, 2004 12:14:05 pm PST #1592 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

But I can't even know. I don't find out what they watched at the day-care center or at school or at a friend's house, half the time.


Betsy HP - Mar 19, 2004 12:15:29 pm PST #1593 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Didn't the child bring the book home from the school library?

This one is, truthfully, a tough call for me. There are large parts of America in which the book violates community standards, and I don't think a school library should necessarily be flouting those standards for elementary-aged children.


§ ita § - Mar 19, 2004 12:17:46 pm PST #1594 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My parents might have suspected I'd gone through ALL their books by the time I was ten, pausing longer on the ones with pictures, and that's why they sold them before I turned eleven. Or they thought they were ahead of the game.

They certainly didn't know about the stacks and stacks of porn mags I'd also read by that time.

Sure, you gotta try, but it might be better to have that convo sooner than later.


Ginger - Mar 19, 2004 12:24:05 pm PST #1595 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My parents never had any idea what I was reading. They didn't really read, so unless it was the James Bond books, which I hid, they had no idea whether the books were appropriate or not. My parents were not particularly religious or conservative and tended to believe I was a sensible child. We went to church, but I would characterize their belief as "There is a God, and he hates us." Eventually we had a minister who came to my mother to say the he was concerned about the state of my soul because I was reading .... Mark Twain. Mother was outraged, but not at me.