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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Frankenbuddha - Mar 13, 2004 7:26:51 am PST #1324 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Not anymore -- I don't know when it was restored, but recent editions have the complete, original ending.

Ack, I wasn't clear enough - I meant back when the movie was made. I actually have the chapter from when Rolling Stone published it, and just have it stuffed into my old paperback copy.

Also, I don't think the non-US editions had the unofficial glossary. Is that still in the US edition?


Amy - Mar 13, 2004 9:36:31 am PST #1325 of 10002
Because books.

Not to completely commercialize the discussion, but one ending I hated was the ending of Stephen King's It. Great book, wonderful characterizations of the kids and their friendships, creepy-spooky clown in the sewer, blah, blah, and then...the "reveal" of the evil just sucked. After 1,100 pages or whatever it was, I expected something a little more sophisticated than a big fat spider . A definite against-the-wall moment for me.


Jessica - Mar 13, 2004 10:01:37 am PST #1326 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, I don't think the non-US editions had the unofficial glossary. Is that still in the US edition?

I don't think so. (At least mine doesn't -- the 1988 edition, with the "Check it out, we're letting Americans read the WHOLE BOOK now!" blurb on the back.)


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2004 10:23:07 am PST #1327 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

When I read Clockwork Orange in high school (around 1997), it had all the chapters in it. (It was for a choice-reading assignment: we got a list of about 50 books, and had to read one from the list. My teacher told me to make sure I got a copy that had the final chapter.) I don't remember whether it had the glossary or not; I know I had a copy of the glossary when I was reading it, but it might have been a photocopy that my teacher gave me.


Hil R. - Mar 13, 2004 10:25:08 am PST #1328 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Also, I loved the last chapter of that book. I remember thinking that the book would be completely pointless without it. (I was 16 at the time. I don't totally remember what I meant by "completely pointless." I really need to reread this book.)


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2004 12:06:42 pm PST #1329 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Just finished reading Jennifer Crusie's Bet Me. Very charming. I remember reading the first chapter on Crusie's website, and not really liking it. I take it all back.

But Faking It is still my favorite, followed closely by Welcome to Temptation, and then Bet Me.


Anne W. - Mar 13, 2004 12:16:27 pm PST #1330 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The endings of Watership Down and Doomsday Book are wonderful, and make me weepy in a very good way. I don't mind sad endings, or even bleak endings such as Heart of Darkness, but I feel that those endings need to be earned as much as any happy ending.

Most of Terry Pratchett's books are ended well, IMHO. Plot lines are wrapped up more or less tidily, but very often the characters themselves are left poised on a moment of change.

I loved the ending of Hill House, for reasons that have been quoted above. The repetition of that opening paragraphy leaves one with the feeling that Hill House is a malevolent entity that can never be completely destroyed or obliterated.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 13, 2004 4:06:37 pm PST #1331 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, I loved the last chapter of that book. I remember thinking that the book would be completely pointless without it.

You and Anthony Burgess both. He agreed to the cut for the US under protest, and didn't have any say about the movie, though Kubrick let him be the one to have to deal with the press about it. Why he let himself get sucked in, I don't know (he's expressed contradictory feelings about the movie), but Kubrick was an amazingly manipulative bastard. Love his movies, but as a person, not so sure. shrugs Seems to be the case with a lot of directors. The most good natured one I've ever read about is David Cronenberg, so there is NO predicting from the films they make.


Nicole - Mar 14, 2004 7:41:38 am PST #1332 of 10002
I'm getting the pig!

Just finished reading Jennifer Crusie's Bet Me. Very charming. I remember reading the first chapter on Crusie's website, and not really liking it. I take it all back.

Working on getting a co-worker to let me borrow her copy, so this is good to hear.

But Faking It is still my favorite, followed closely by Welcome to Temptation, and then Bet Me.
So far I've only read three--Getting Rid of Bradley (didn't love it), Fast Women (liked it), and Faking It (loved it). I have high hopes for Bet Me and intend to pick up Welcome to Temptation next time I'm at Target. Yes, I should have read it before Faking It. I know.


erikaj - Mar 14, 2004 8:46:05 am PST #1333 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I didn't, either.