I just think it's rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just in order to play rugby.

Giles ,'Beneath You'


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Jessica - Mar 10, 2004 5:54:54 pm PST #1232 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

mmmmmm, Barry Lyndon.

Watership Down ends very well.


Kate P. - Mar 10, 2004 5:57:14 pm PST #1233 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I'm gonna be all obvious and say I love the ending of The Lord of the Rings almost beyond the telling of it. How the story is wrapped up for all the characters, and how the ending is both happy and melancholy, how the loss they've all suffered is so real and takes such a toll, and yet there's also a real joy at the glory of the days to come.

For bad endings to good books... I really loved Zadie Smith's White Teeth up until the FutureMouse bit. Actually, that was even okay until it became clear that the culmination of the whole story was going to center around it; suddenly, what had seemed a relatively uninteresting subplot became The Whole Point. And I didn't get enough of a sense of resolution for any of the characters.

Also, have any of you read Norman Rush's Mating? It's a fascinating story, but the ending just trails off, IMO. Still very much worth reading, though.


Ginger - Mar 10, 2004 6:04:40 pm PST #1234 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

My most memorable ending is the ending of Jack McDevitt's "A Talent for War," a book I pimp at every opportunity. His other books are well done, but this one is remarkable. It's an "oh shit" ending, but one that, when you look back, you can see all these bits of evidence. It's a puzzle on a grand scale that's being put together by the protagonists.

I also love the ending of Moby Dick: "It was the devious-cruising Rachel, that in her retracing search after her missing children, only found another orphan." In that case, I think it's because we start with Ishmael, alone, and end with him, alone, saved by mystical means to tell the tale.

In general, I like a book that takes a little time in wrapping up the ending. I've been irritated with many a mystery novel that basically ended with "Bob did it. The End."


Kate P. - Mar 10, 2004 6:09:25 pm PST #1235 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Bob did it?! Jeez, ruin the ending for me, why don'tcha.

I like long wrapups too. Basically, I'm unsatisfied if I feel that the characters haven't gotten enough resolution. I don't need complete resolution, but I need to feel, in some way, that the story is over for the characters as well as for me.

Edit: uh, I guess that's stating the obvious. I like character arcs! Yay, character arcs!


deborah grabien - Mar 10, 2004 9:29:57 pm PST #1236 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Are we talking about Molly Bloom now?

Speaking of great endings....

One of the best ever. And what Teppy said, about Kavalier and Klay.

More specific endings? Rebecca, with an ending that I remember as well as the one-of-a-kind beginning. The Haunting of Hill House, which is exactly the same paragraph as the opening, but which now hits entirely different synapses.

Reading or writing, I like endings that are logical and a result of the situation and characters, but which aren't necessarily the ending I expected as a reader.


Nilly - Mar 11, 2004 3:57:56 am PST #1237 of 10002
Swouncing

Just wanted to 'Word" every single word in Katerina's post.


erikaj - Mar 11, 2004 4:50:15 am PST #1238 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Wrod, with Hec, on O'Connor. I'm ashamed to admit how few of these works I've either read or retained the endings of...sigh. Guess I should read something not Leonard, yeah? But he's a good choice for a Dialogue's Bitch like me. Good books are often ruined by too-happy, too-perfect endings. Portnoy's Complaint had a good ending...he finally hears from the shrink he's been spilling to. "Now we begin, yes?"


Betsy HP - Mar 11, 2004 5:18:32 am PST #1239 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Part of the problem is that most of the time I don't think of a book as having a good ending -- I think of it as a good book, with the ending a seamless part. The ending stands out only if it's a trick in some way, or if it's as lyrical as The Dead or Gatsby. Like, for instance, Being Dead is a wonderful book, one of the best I've read in years, but I can't remember the ending specifically.


Micole - Mar 11, 2004 5:32:42 am PST #1240 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Seconding The Great Gatsby. Also suggesting John Crowley's Little, Big. A.S. Byatt's Possession.

I had more, but they've flown out of my head.


flea - Mar 11, 2004 5:54:03 am PST #1241 of 10002
information libertarian

I love the ending of Possession. It makes me cry and cry. But I am a sap like that.