those $3 mass-market sci-fi/fantasy paperbacks
But that still sounds like a subsection of the genre, possibly more generous than Sturgeon's law (I don't know the last time I bought a $3 mass-market sci-fi/fantasy paperback, myself).
Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.
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§ ita § - Mar 08, 2004 1:55:31 pm PST #1128 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
amych - Mar 08, 2004 1:55:45 pm PST #1129 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
However, he adored it by slamming a whole genre
Oh, goody. Cheap and baseless strawman attacks -- a classic way of avoiding having to actually think about the book.
Consuela - Mar 08, 2004 1:56:45 pm PST #1130 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I swear, I've seen this so often on Salon lately, I think it's a conscious editorial strategy. Post something with a bunch of gratuitous comments guaranteed to piss people off, and watch your hit count go up.
They get lots of enraged letters and the literary bloggers (like Bookslut, fr'instance) put up links with snarky comments.
Everyone wins, except the folks who were slammed in the original review.
P.M. Marc - Mar 08, 2004 1:57:43 pm PST #1131 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
But that still sounds like a subsection of the genre, possibly more generous than Sturgeon's law (I don't know the last time I bought a $3 mass-market sci-fi/fantasy paperback, myself).
Eh, I suspect the fellow's never purchased one and is pulling the numbers from thin air.
Hell, even the discount get you hooked genre books (which, granted, I usually see in romance fiction) are more than that these days.
§ ita § - Mar 08, 2004 1:58:47 pm PST #1132 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I suspect the fellow's never purchased one and is pulling the numbers from thin air
Oh, quite probably. But from those excerpts it still seems like he's drawing a line between the good (or expensive) stuff and the bad. And then slamming the bad.
scrappy - Mar 08, 2004 2:00:35 pm PST #1133 of 10002
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See, I don't see the slam, IT's like saying "this book has a sex and violence plot which seems like it would make a good one of those Spanish novelas they sell on newstands." That's not a slam at comic books, it just says that this branch of comic books tends toward the big-busted babes in peril--which it does.
amych - Mar 08, 2004 2:01:06 pm PST #1134 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
But from those excerpts it still seems like he's drawing a line between the good (or expensive) stuff and the bad.
He is. But it seems like the line between good and bad, for him, isn't between serious SF and, say, novelizations of bad straight-to-video movies -- it's between trade and mass-market.
Consuela - Mar 08, 2004 2:01:19 pm PST #1135 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Plei, do you have a link? I went to Salon and couldn't find the review you were talking about.
P.M. Marc - Mar 08, 2004 2:03:11 pm PST #1136 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Plei, do you have a link? I went to Salon and couldn't find the review you were talking about.
It's page 4 of the book reviews/what to read article. I don't have a direct link.
§ ita § - Mar 08, 2004 2:03:49 pm PST #1137 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it's between trade and mass-market.
What's the official difference between the two? Because to my unlettered naivete he's saying "this sounds like it should be on the crap-ass side of the line, but it's not." Of course, from the first quote I couldn't tell he meant cheap literally.