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Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


sumi - Feb 26, 2005 5:36:28 am PST #9895 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

What was it that CKR said to Laura? Who did he say was a Cylon? Or were we supposed to not hear that?


DCJensen - Feb 26, 2005 5:38:46 am PST #9896 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

He said "Adama is a Cylon" Or maybe "Captain Adama is a Cylon."


sumi - Feb 26, 2005 5:53:05 am PST #9897 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Okay, I wasn't sure.

I need to re-watch the mini -- I can't remember if the CKR-Cylon had contact with Laura before. I don't think that he did. My question is -- was he appearing in her dreams because she is a Cylon? Or, because he has the same ability that Six has?


Theodosia - Feb 26, 2005 7:06:21 am PST #9898 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There are a lot of unanswered questions.

I was quite surprised how well the Starbuck actor did in her scenes with CKR. I haven't thought much of her before this, but she was hitting them out of the ballpark this episode.


brenda m - Feb 26, 2005 7:48:24 am PST #9899 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I had to rewind, but he definitely said Adama. Loved this ep - CKR, Starbuck and whassername the President were all totally on.


beth b - Feb 26, 2005 7:09:44 pm PST #9900 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

starbuck - did really well. DH couldn't complete understand her sympathy with CKR. so he might need to rewatch. darn.


Jessica - Feb 26, 2005 7:24:38 pm PST #9901 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Just watched, and I agree -- fabulous ep. Great work by everyone.


askye - Feb 26, 2005 8:36:28 pm PST #9902 of 10000
Thrive to spite them

I have to admit I didn't get Starbuck's turn around irt CKR's character, but this was the only episode I've seen all the way through so I'm sure that played a part.

However, after seeing it I'm going to watch the show.


beth b - Feb 27, 2005 12:42:19 pm PST #9903 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

here are my thoughts with starbuck

  • the machine understood her - knew where she was coming from, so to speak. Without her saying a word. she didn't have to explain anything . Isn't this what the perfect man ( or god ) supposed to be able to do?

  • Starbuck is instinctive. That's why she could fly the plane ( ok, a fanwank , but it fits) . When she has gone against her instincts, bad things happen( good bye zak) . the cylon is confusing her. She Knows he is a machine, but his actions are very human.

Starbuck is finding one of the questions for the show - a real common question for science fiction - what does it mean when we call something human.


brenda m - Feb 27, 2005 2:10:19 pm PST #9904 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think the fact that she couldn't predict his reactions even after several hoursn really threw her. Both of them, in fact, I think surprised the other, and it seemed like they were both thrown off balance by it. Because what is a machine if not predictable? Her tack of trying to make him choose between his humanity and his cylon abilities seemed promising, but none of it seemed to pan out the way she expected, and if he can surprise her, if his actions and motivations can be as fucked up as a humans, then... As well, when Laura came in and kind of woke her up to what she'd been doing for so long - he had kind of sucked her in without her even realizing it, because it had become more of a battle of wills than a quest for information. Again, not an easy thingn to do and still keep the You Cylon Me Human dividing line totally clear.

(Aslo - do we know cylons turn off pain at will, etc, or was Starbuck just assuming something?)

The "Adama is a cylon" bit suggests that CKR, at least, was more back on message by the end.