Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Nutty - Jan 27, 2005 7:09:13 am PST #9364 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Still, I think they achieved a desperate and claustrophobic tone which didn't wear me out.

I have to say, based only on the episodes already aired, that they rival the Lost Islanders in their total lack of long-term planning. Which, when you're on a fruitful, warm island with Tom Cruise's cousin, is a lot less of a pressing issue than when you represent the last desperate gasp of the species fleeing in a fleet of garbage trucks into the outer-space unknown.

If I wrote Battlestar Galactica, and wanted "desperate", I would, like, institute a criminal justice system whereby the ultimate punishment was lobotomy or brain death (because the rest of your body might still be useful), a forced breeding or cloning program, and some major changes to the logistics of herding a bunch of ships. (I think I would annex them all and glue them all together rather than have to re-count them every time they go someplace. Like, a first grade class on a field trip, except the field trip lasts forever. )

Would not be a fun TV show, I admit.


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2005 7:13:27 am PST #9365 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But they do have a plan. I'm not saying it's a good one. But they have a goal. And there's more stuff later.

And hey!

Nah, he's got nothing for me.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 27, 2005 10:01:49 am PST #9366 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

However, with the short season, we haven't yet had the equivalent of the bad DS9.

What DS9 did you think was bad - a particular arc(s), or just random episodes? I know there were some that I liked a lot less than others (there was a rather desultory gambling one at one point; actually two now that I think of it), but I don't remember them having any extended periods of crapitude.


Micole - Jan 27, 2005 10:43:24 am PST #9367 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

(I think I would annex them all and glue them all together rather than have to re-count them every time they go someplace. Like, a first grade class on a field trip, except the field trip lasts forever. )

Yes. That way when something goes wrong, they can all die together.


Nutty - Jan 27, 2005 11:03:41 am PST #9368 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, okay, this being a TV show, something is bound to go wrong. But, think of the gas they are wasting driving little puddle jumpers all around to shuttle people from here to there! Also, there's half a chance that one ship will have stuff and another will not, and they'll start fighting over the stuff, to the detriment of all.

Also, the endless counting. "Okay, the Tokugawa Queen. Has anybody seen the Tokugawa Queen since we left McDonald's? She was wearing blue shorts and a purple top, and Jeffrey if you don't listen to me you are gonna sit right next to me for the rest of the trip. Got it?"


JenP - Jan 27, 2005 11:44:17 am PST #9369 of 10000

they can all die together

And suddenly a Billy Joel song about "and we would all go down together" is in my head.

Well, my opinions of characters morphed slightly over the run, which isn't surprising, really, but I don't want to spoil with specifics. I'll say that Starbuck has grown on me less quickly than I'd like her to, but I still don't dislike her, exactly. Then again, I also found Lee sort of bland for a good portion, too (with some notable, specific scene exceptions, some of which have already aired, even), which doesn't seem to be a prevailing opinion here orout there in the wilds.

Totally grooved on Roslin. And her assistant... he's adorable. Wish I could remember his name. I am a fan of the Baltar/Blonde Cylon show. And EJO is someone I'll likely always groove on. Fence sitting about Boomer, Helo, the chief, but no real gripes. Don't like Tighe much.

I also think they've set up some interesting threads that I'd like to see play out.


sumi - Jan 27, 2005 12:02:59 pm PST #9370 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Are Ben Edlund and Adam Busch reason enough to watch Point Pleasant?


DXMachina - Jan 27, 2005 12:32:31 pm PST #9371 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

they can all die together

And suddenly a Billy Joel song about "and we would all go down together" is in my head.

For me it's Tom Lehrer's "We Will All Go Together When We Go."


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2005 12:33:42 pm PST #9372 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then again, I also found Lee sort of bland for a good portion, too (with some notable, specific scene exceptions, some of which have already aired, even), which doesn't seem to be a prevailing opinion here out there in the wilds.

Lee in Bastille Day pretty much erased my opinion of him as bland, and shifted it to quiet observer.


DCJensen - Jan 27, 2005 2:44:44 pm PST #9373 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Are Ben Edlund and Adam Busch reason enough to watch Point Pleasant?

I'm waiting until the 4th ep to make a determination. So far? It seems to be Omen's Exorcist Beach Creek.