Whoa. I wish I'd seen Summit pt 2 (Last Stand?) with "Proving Ground" in mind. Also, after the one where Martouf died.
Much sadder now.
Anya: It's lovely! I wish it was mine! Oh like you weren't all thinking the same thing. Giles: I'm fairly certain I wasn't.
'The Killer In Me'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
§ ita § - Sep 22, 2003 8:05:37 pm PDT #565 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
brenda m - Sep 22, 2003 9:30:55 pm PDT #566 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I never did watch Wise Guy, though later I kind of wished I had. Good news about the DVDs.
I loved Chris Meloni in his guest spot on Homicide - enough to carry me through the slow torture that is SUV and on to check out OZ, where I'm liking him so far, and anticipating better to come. But christ, here's an actor who postitively simmers, and somehow L&O has managed to suck all the heat and spark out and leave some platitude-spouting hollow man - WTF? I remember when that show used to be electric. Now even the original annoys, and the spin-offs are a showcase of wasted potential.
Kat Allison - Sep 23, 2003 2:20:51 am PDT #567 of 10000
"No, YOU suck." -- the mean people.
The unfortunate thing about the Wiseguy DVDs is that they were either unable to obtain, or too cheap to pay for, the rights to "Nights in White Satin," which means that One of the Slashiest Scenes in Television Evah will be sadly vitiated. That said, I'll be getting the DVDs anyway.
My brain acknowledges that the Proffit arc is probably better overall, but my heart belongs to the Steelgrave arc, because it's such classic doomed romance, and because I love Ray Sharkey as Sonny to an extent that is positively indecent.
Emily - Sep 23, 2003 3:14:22 am PDT #568 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Summit was on yesterday? ARRRRGH. Dammit, I've never seen that one or the one after it!
Not that it would have helped to have known. I was busy. Repeating to myself over and over, "I am too stupid for this. Too damn stupid. What do the basal ganglia do again? Uh huh. I get the Huntington's/Parkinson's thing... wait, what does the cerebellum do?"
Still, that's the one with Daniel Jackson undercover, isn't it?
Theodosia - Sep 23, 2003 3:27:54 am PDT #569 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Emily, I should have both of those on the TiVo. We could arrange for a visit, if you like. The place is clean and all that.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 23, 2003 4:04:58 am PDT #570 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Someone needs to cast Chris Meloni and Elias Koteas as brothers in something.
Nutty - Sep 23, 2003 4:56:23 am PDT #571 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
the silent barber with the fetish for quality footwear is the Aryan Nation bad guy on Oz.
Also, the yellow M & M. Also, Dr. Skoda on L & O Classic. Also, the editor guy in Spider-man. Dude gets around.
Somehow I knew that Wiseguy was in the 80s a fannish lightning rod. I think I must have picked it up by osmosis, or from the way TV essayists talk about it. I know more than one current fannish type who points to it (and to Hill Street Blues) as the source of story arcs on TV. I was just a little too young to have watched it in first run, and I saw a couple of reruns 5 years ago someplace like Court TV, but they were all out of order and confusing.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 23, 2003 6:12:41 am PDT #572 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
but they were all out of order and confusing.
Not surprised considering they showed them out of order during it's actual Network run a few times (I think they really messed up the order of the re-runs at one point, plus moved it around the schedule, which is why I stopped watching).
eta I think Fox took lessons in how to handle challenging programming from CBS.
Elena - Sep 23, 2003 7:26:40 am PDT #573 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.
Nights In White Satin isn't going to be in it? Goddamn.
DavidS - Sep 23, 2003 8:40:58 am PDT #574 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I know more than one current fannish type who points to it (and to Hill Street Blues) as the source of story arcs on TV.
Joss specifically has cited Wiseguy for story arcs. (And Hill Street as an influence on how to do an ensemble cast for Firefly).
Also, Wiseguy was incredibly slashy at times.