Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.

'Touched'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


DCJensen - May 04, 2004 7:07:27 pm PDT #5630 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

She also comes on to just about everyone male and acts generally inappropriately.

At least it was a consistant characterization. Plus? Eventual character growth. Not much, but some. She sure wasn't Nurse Chapel.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 7:10:27 pm PDT #5631 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not passing judgment on her, DCJ. Just giving Vonnie background.


Vonnie K - May 04, 2004 7:21:04 pm PDT #5632 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

'S all good. It's fun to troll around startrek.com and, you know, get some back-stories on the universe. I was all, "Ahh, so that's who they mean when people say Riker/Troi in fanfic!", and "Huh, that Seven of Nine character everyone hates is part Borg?", and "Hmm, I should probably read up on The Borg since I say stuff like 'resistance is futile!' all the time (I *think* that is a Borg ref, but I could be wrong.) The only Trek ep I watched before DS9 was the one where Joan Collins was not a bitch and Kirk had to let her die to prevent Hitler from winning the war. I ran across that ep on a random afternoon and stuck around to watch, because it was actually pretty good.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 7:23:20 pm PDT #5633 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Vonnie, that ep is one that Tim cited as having a large impact on him.

It was good TV.


Vonnie K - May 04, 2004 7:38:17 pm PDT #5634 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Oh yeah. I recall Tim mentioning something about a Trek episode in his thread a while back. I can see how it would have had a large impact on Tim as a writer. It was all about shades of gray and wonky timelines and oh, the DEATH.

I tried to watch a couple of more episodes of the original ST after that, but it didn't take. Too much dairy for my system.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 7:40:52 pm PDT #5635 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's about the only ep I like. I thought I'd liked the whole series -- maybe I did when I was little. So far, all I can rewatch is selected TNG (most anything Picard-centric, for starters) and DS9.


DCJensen - May 04, 2004 7:42:26 pm PDT #5636 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

I didn't think you were passing judgement. I was putting in my two cents about the character.


Thomash - May 04, 2004 7:56:04 pm PDT #5637 of 10000
I have a plan.

This is the first Trek show I've watched/I have no backstory on any of these people, so I went up and looked her character up. So, she's mother of that black-haired gal on The Next Generation, eh? (Not that I watched that show or anything, but it's on all the frickin' time.) The way she was hitting on Odo like a Mack truck was absolutely hysterical. And Odo's numerous groans and eyerolls! Heh.

Majel Barret has been the longest-standing figure in the Star Trek franchise. Some interesting facts about her; She was married to the show's creator, Gene Roddenberry. She's the voice of every single Star Trek computer after the original series, where she played Nurse Chapel. She voiced the animated series and was the executive producer for the above mentioned Andromeda.

I never minded the translator microbes. To me they seemed to be like a partially autonomous mentally-enhanced ability, microbially powered that is. The default state is 'on' but a concious effort to not use them could be fairly simple to do. I remember an episode where the crew (held prisoner) started talking to each other in their own languages to cover somebody else tried to sneak by or something.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 8:04:47 pm PDT #5638 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How do you explain the foreign words we still hear, Thomash?


Thomash - May 04, 2004 8:12:23 pm PDT #5639 of 10000
I have a plan.

A concious choice, for exclamation or to add a little flair maybe. Their slang and expressive methods are different.