Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Jars - May 04, 2004 9:04:06 am PDT #5592 of 10000

if it were hunter-gatherer cultures, I wouldn't really have a problem, because they do tend to stay fairly static (I think).

Here comes the archaeology geek bit. This is a simplification that grew out of the Colonial anthropology of the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hunter-gatherer societies can be extremely complex and dynamic, and show as much, if not more, variety and agency as agriculturalist peoples.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.


Emily - May 04, 2004 9:12:32 am PDT #5593 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Hunter-gatherer societies can be extremely complex and dynamic, and show as much, if not more, variety and agency as agriculturalist peoples.

Aha! But if you majored in MovieAnthropology...

Good point. I just didn't think they showed as much rate of change. But my grounding, past Anthro 101 (and then Male/Female, and something else -- our Anthropology teacher was also co-director of the Women's Studies department), is terribly haphazard. I cede the point with style and grace.

So yeah! Not even hunter-gatherer societies! Which, now that I...

Do you think there are Jaffa farmers? Or are there human slaves on Chulak (and other Jaffa planets)? Or is their food imported?

Man, I'm short-attention-span woman today. Look, shiny!


Katie M - May 04, 2004 9:12:59 am PDT #5594 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Still, the idea that none of the transplanted groups changed at all is so incredible I just try to ignore it.

Well, it does happen occasionally. Kelowna, for instance, or the Tollans, or the Society Of Stupid People from "The Sentinel." (HEAD GUY: We've dedicated our lives to peaceful contemplation. ME, out loud: Well, it doesn't seem to have helped much!)


Jars - May 04, 2004 9:17:59 am PDT #5595 of 10000

Do you think there are Jaffa farmers? Or are there human slaves on Chulak (and other Jaffa planets)? Or is their food imported?

Maybe they have replicators? But wouldn't they get them confused with the Replicators? Now I'm confused.


Katie M - May 04, 2004 9:22:56 am PDT #5596 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Do you think there are Jaffa farmers? Or are there human slaves on Chulak (and other Jaffa planets)? Or is their food imported?

I've always assumed that farming is a lot of what humans are doing on goa'uld-dominated worlds, since there's absolutely no evidence of Jaffa doing so. Canonically human slaves either traipse around with goa'uld in skimpy outfits or mine ("I dreamed about mining. Naked.") but that's clearly silly, and the goa'uld and Jaffa must get their food from somewhere.


Emily - May 04, 2004 11:01:34 am PDT #5597 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

(HEAD GUY: We've dedicated our lives to peaceful contemplation. ME, out loud: Well, it doesn't seem to have helped much!)

Ah, their whole problem was selecting their ruling class out of cast members from Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In.

Katie! You're a genius! They eat rocks! (Eats, Rocks, and Leaves?)


Dana - May 04, 2004 11:21:05 am PDT #5598 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Meanwhile, on Enterprise, their resident linguist can pretty much translate anything! Perfectly! Why? Because the plot requires it.


Emily - May 04, 2004 11:31:16 am PDT #5599 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

She had trouble in the pilot, right? That being the only episode I ever watched? But then learned the true meaning of Christmas to Believe in Herself and thereafter never made a mistake ever?


Dana - May 04, 2004 11:32:39 am PDT #5600 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's one of those things where it's not consistent. If they want it to be an issue, it's an issue. If, on the other hand, she needs to translate whale song? Just give her a couple of days.

It's almost kind of interesting, watching them desperately try to make Enterprise darker and darker.


§ ita § - May 04, 2004 11:34:06 am PDT #5601 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pretty freaking close.

If they tried to get me to buy she could learn a new human language in under a week, who'd expect me to buy it? Yet ... she crosses species with a wink and a smile.

HATE the language crap. Just hate it.