Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 16, 2004 5:46:47 pm PST #4409 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

in WSS #3 she ::whimper:: levitates and emits a radiation harmful to Scarrans to save them all in the bunker with the flowers.

Oh yeah, I do remember that bit, but forgot that it was because she was a bionid (or whatever). I just figured it was another hidden power for Sikozu-sue.


Katie M - Mar 16, 2004 5:53:44 pm PST #4410 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Renowned for being the episode where Crichton's dilemma could have been very easily solve by simply taking off his shirt. A deeply stupid episode, and the one episode of the entire series that I really would like to believe never happened, in its entirety.

Honestly, I remember sitting there thinking "oh, don't even tell me that John Crichton was never enough of a geek to play something like Zork. It's a simple puzzle! Solve it!"

And then I realized that I was criticizing a fictional character in a science fiction show for not solving a puzzle in a manner befitting someone who'd played a text adventure game. Which, you know, er. But I would've known to take off my damn shirt, at least!


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 6:16:37 pm PST #4411 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have blocked that episode out -- tell me more about this shirt conundrum ...


Consuela - Mar 16, 2004 6:25:33 pm PST #4412 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

God, it's so stupid.

Scorpy takes them to Katoya, who is a master of mental arts, with the intent of teaching Crichton how to resist the Scarrans. Crichton gets stuck in a cage made of a metallic grid, too small to stand in, with a hibachi built into the floor.

The key to the cage is periodically dropped from the ceiling. It falls into the hibachi but Crichton can't take it out of the coals without removing the red-hot grid above it.

Every single fan watching this said, "Take off your shirt and wrap your hands in it to remove the grid!" He never ever does. Instead, after a gazillion iterations, he picks up the red-hot grid in his unprotected hands, screaming, and then pulls the key out of the coals.

PhD in cosmic theory. Designed his own space ship. Survived living with Rygel for 4 years. Deeply, deeply, stupid.

Browder's explanation was that Crichton would burn his back on the wall of the cage if he took off his shirt.

Also? Crichton is supposed to be the free-thinker. His whole life is one big Kobayashi Maru trick. In this episode, he does exactly what he's supposed to do.

Deeply stupid.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 6:27:52 pm PST #4413 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm assuming, as aired, his back was in no danger?

Did he have socks, perhaps? Boxers?


Consuela - Mar 16, 2004 6:32:42 pm PST #4414 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I believe he was barefoot. But I've tried to purge the memory of that episode from my mind.

His back was in no immediate danger, and besides, if he'd managed to get the key, he'd be out of there. Not to mention, many more nerve endings in the hands, and hands are pretty useful. It was moronic.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 16, 2004 6:37:36 pm PST #4415 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Huh. That may be more deeply stupid than the Sunnydale police. Wow. I missed that it was like that when I read that particular synopsis.


Consuela - Mar 16, 2004 6:56:01 pm PST #4416 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Well, IIRC, that particular episode was written by the same guy who wrote A Prefect Murder and WSS #3, both of which were problematic (and probably seriously doctored by others just to make them filmable, but I'm guessing here). They were desperately short on writers.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 7:03:17 pm PST #4417 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I need to take a moment to say that not only do I love how Teal'c neither flinches nor moves quickly out of the way, but in Upgrades where the mountain starts blowing up, and everyone, including the evil Jaffa, falls down?

Not our boy.


DCJensen - Mar 16, 2004 9:05:16 pm PST #4418 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Teal'c also managed to stay up when the deceleration from hyperspace occured the first time they showed it.