Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Madrigal Costello - Mar 06, 2004 6:27:50 am PST #4149 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

I thought that Jack was just telling Maybourne what he wanted to hear, since he was not doing so well, having just been shot and received whatever first aid Jack was capable of. My guess was that he was dying, and Jack wanted him to die happily.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2004 8:08:30 am PST #4150 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Having never seen the show, I'm just amused by the notion of a villain named Kinsey.

His super-evil-power is to make people sexually attracted to whatever gender they weren't attracted to before.


§ ita § - Mar 06, 2004 8:22:40 am PST #4151 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

God, I love "Shades Of Grey." Mostly I hate those sting eps where the truth is concealed from some of the major players to make sure their reactions are appropriate, but this one just hurt because Jack was so mean, and they all took it so badly, and Jack's all grim and determined and wearing the hat, and his "I'm back!" is so indicative of his reluctance to talk about the messy things and make apologies.

Adore. Not sure which is my favouritest ep, but this is top 5.


Thomash - Mar 06, 2004 8:29:11 am PST #4152 of 10000
I have a plan.

Saw it (Shades) for the first time yesterday, though not all the way through. Which is really frustrating because what I did see was really good.

'Inauguration' on the other hand... well what can you say about clip shows? William Devane was absolute coolness so it's got that.


§ ita § - Mar 06, 2004 8:33:43 am PST #4153 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

what can you say about clip shows?

Unconquerable Man, Andromeda, by Zack Stentz and Ashley Miller.

I've never seen ME do a clip show, and I'm curious about their potential approach, but Zack and Ashley took the clips and reused the history in such a way that you couldn't tell past from present from what you'd already seen. It wasn't flashbacks, per se, it wasn't sitting around and talky meating about the past.

It was really good, and made me want to go back and watch all the episodes clipped, and then watch the ep again.

William Devane and Lt Fancy were great last night. Kinsey needs to fall down a flight of stairs. Picardo was picking up. He's gruff and vinegary, but at least he's aiming it in a less annoying direction.

I don't believe in oversight, so much. Well, in theory. But I don't care about the public's right to know about missions whose end is (clearly, to me) best served by secrecy. And the whole "Sure, they saved the world but ignored orders" dances around the point of OF COURSE they saved the world. It's their show. It's what they do.

It ain't the Jossverse.


DXMachina - Mar 06, 2004 9:17:57 am PST #4154 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

It was really good, and made me want to go back and watch all the episodes clipped, and then watch the ep again.

Yeah, that was a great ep.

I don't believe in oversight, so much. Well, in theory. But I don't care about the public's right to know about missions whose end is (clearly, to me) best served by secrecy. And the whole "Sure, they saved the world but ignored orders" dances around the point of OF COURSE they saved the world. It's their show. It's what they do.

Here's the thing about that. I agree, but then I saw the following ep where Daniel returns from the dead with no memory of who he is, and they let him go on a mission. Not just any mission, but a mission where he has to sneak around on a Goa'uld mother ship. WTF?!?


Consuela - Mar 06, 2004 10:00:04 am PST #4155 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Not just any mission, but a mission where he has to sneak around on a Goa'uld mother ship. WTF?!?

Yeah. that was wacked.

I also -- I just found the whole thing really odd. Like, here's this person you worked with & lived with for five or six years, and you cared deeply about him, and then he died, and maybe you saw him as a spirit being or something, but he was for all ordinary purposes dead. You grieved for him, and mourned, and maybe went on, but there was always this hole where he used to be.

So you bump into him one day, and you don't flip out? You don't even sniffle a little, or throw yourself into his arms?

The lack of affect about Daniel's return disturbed me deeply. Compare to the Jossverse, where Buffy's return was a huge deal, both narratively and emotionally.

It was weird.


Emily - Mar 06, 2004 11:27:05 am PST #4156 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Well, they had just worked very closely with his ascended self on a mission. So, that could affect the reaction somewhat.


Consuela - Mar 06, 2004 11:29:45 am PST #4157 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, but dude, they weren't even surprised. I still think it was deeply bizarre.


Holli - Mar 06, 2004 11:34:43 am PST #4158 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Well, I don't think he was dead to the rest of SG-1 like Buffy was dead to the rest of the Scoobs. I mean, if Buffy had periodically popped in for spectral visits, all glowy and clad in earth tones, her friends probably wouldn't even have considered the possibility of her being hellbound and in need of resurrection.

Unless you consider earth tones hell, which Buffy very well may.

edit: I start too many sentences with "Well..."